Comments on: No More Begging http://susiemadrak.com/2007/08/08/19/12/no-more-begging/ Keeping a jaundiced eye on the corporate media. Tue, 07 Oct 2008 08:33:35 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6 By: dreaminginthedeepsouth http://susiemadrak.com/2007/08/08/19/12/no-more-begging/#comment-128782 dreaminginthedeepsouth Sat, 11 Aug 2007 22:17:37 +0000 http://susiemadrak.com/2007/08/08/19/12/no-more-begging/#comment-128782 Al has the resume. He has the credibility, not just USA credibility, but world wide, foreign policy cred. He values others as smart or smarter than himself. I used to work in the medical world. Good docs refer to good docs, and bad docs refer to bad docs. So, always check with O.R. Nurses etc. to find out who the good docs are. Same goes for the political game. Bush hires people he feels superior to/smarter than. 'Nuff said. I think it was Lee Iacocca who wrote about addressing a group of Fortune 500 CEOs, (in the times of Ronald Reagan) as asked how many of the CEO's votes for Reagan. All hands went up. Then he asked how many of them would put Ronald Reagan in as THEIR (company's) CEO? No hands went up. Gore's time in the Wilderness, i.e. outside the beltway, has done him a world of good IMHO. I hope and pray that he heeds the call of his country and enters the race. Al has the resume. He has the credibility, not just USA credibility, but world wide, foreign policy cred. He values others as smart or smarter than himself.
I used to work in the medical world. Good docs refer to good docs, and bad docs refer to bad docs. So, always check with O.R. Nurses etc. to find out who the good docs are.
Same goes for the political game. Bush hires people he feels superior to/smarter than. ‘Nuff said.
I think it was Lee Iacocca who wrote about addressing a group of Fortune 500 CEOs, (in the times of Ronald Reagan) as asked how many of the CEO’s votes for Reagan. All hands went up. Then he asked how many of them would put Ronald Reagan in as THEIR (company’s) CEO? No hands went up.
Gore’s time in the Wilderness, i.e. outside the beltway, has done him a world of good IMHO. I hope and pray that he heeds the call of his country and enters the race.

]]> By: Dumbo http://susiemadrak.com/2007/08/08/19/12/no-more-begging/#comment-128722 Dumbo Fri, 10 Aug 2007 00:51:15 +0000 http://susiemadrak.com/2007/08/08/19/12/no-more-begging/#comment-128722 Too late. The time for this was three months ago. All this would do now is solidify Hillary's position. We only have two choices this year: the Hillary-Borg or the Un-Hillary. And since Gore wouldn't enter the race in a timely manner, all he does is squander the un-Hillary vote. Personally, I don't care who I vote for, as long as it's not Hillary. And if she wins the nomination... well, let's not go there. Too late.

The time for this was three months ago. All this would do now is solidify Hillary’s position.

We only have two choices this year: the Hillary-Borg or the Un-Hillary. And since Gore wouldn’t enter the race in a timely manner, all he does is squander the un-Hillary vote.

Personally, I don’t care who I vote for, as long as it’s not Hillary. And if she wins the nomination… well, let’s not go there.

]]> By: Susie http://susiemadrak.com/2007/08/08/19/12/no-more-begging/#comment-128720 Susie Thu, 09 Aug 2007 23:05:11 +0000 http://susiemadrak.com/2007/08/08/19/12/no-more-begging/#comment-128720 You know what? Frank Zappa's widow, Gail Zappa, is really good friends with Tipper Gore. Maybe Tipper's not the censoring witch you suppose her to be. You know what? Frank Zappa’s widow, Gail Zappa, is really good friends with Tipper Gore. Maybe Tipper’s not the censoring witch you suppose her to be.

]]> By: Elvis Mendeleev http://susiemadrak.com/2007/08/08/19/12/no-more-begging/#comment-128717 Elvis Mendeleev Thu, 09 Aug 2007 20:45:41 +0000 http://susiemadrak.com/2007/08/08/19/12/no-more-begging/#comment-128717 <i>If Al Gore runs for President on the Democratic ticket in 2008, I will not vote for him. Just like I did not vote for him in 2000. I will even vote for Nader before I vote for Al Gore.</i> And how did that work out for you? Cretin. If Al Gore runs for President on the Democratic ticket in 2008, I will not vote for him.

Just like I did not vote for him in 2000.

I will even vote for Nader before I vote for Al Gore.

And how did that work out for you?

Cretin.

]]> By: James E. Powell http://susiemadrak.com/2007/08/08/19/12/no-more-begging/#comment-128716 James E. Powell Thu, 09 Aug 2007 20:28:31 +0000 http://susiemadrak.com/2007/08/08/19/12/no-more-begging/#comment-128716 <i>Personally I would never vote for Al Gore, simply because of all the years he actively supported censorship of music lyrics.</i> I know when I look around the world and at my country these days, music lyrics certainly rank right near the top of things requiring urgent attention. This argument ranks just above "who would you want to have a beer with?" when one is considering who should be in the White House. Oh, and get this, it wasn't about censoring anything, it was about a labeling program that is remarkably like the movies. But I guess that was enough of a threat that it was necessary to turn the country over to Bush/Cheney. Personally I would never vote for Al Gore, simply because of all the years he actively supported censorship of music lyrics.

I know when I look around the world and at my country these days, music lyrics certainly rank right near the top of things requiring urgent attention.

This argument ranks just above “who would you want to have a beer with?” when one is considering who should be in the White House.

Oh, and get this, it wasn’t about censoring anything, it was about a labeling program that is remarkably like the movies.

But I guess that was enough of a threat that it was necessary to turn the country over to Bush/Cheney.

]]> By: judyinnm http://susiemadrak.com/2007/08/08/19/12/no-more-begging/#comment-128715 judyinnm Thu, 09 Aug 2007 20:27:46 +0000 http://susiemadrak.com/2007/08/08/19/12/no-more-begging/#comment-128715 Forget them all - Only Russ Feingold has his priorities right - SAVE THE CONSTITUTION FIRST - then address the minor details. Draft Feingold!!! Forget them all - Only Russ Feingold has his priorities right - SAVE THE CONSTITUTION FIRST - then address the minor details. Draft Feingold!!!

]]> By: Izquierdo http://susiemadrak.com/2007/08/08/19/12/no-more-begging/#comment-128712 Izquierdo Thu, 09 Aug 2007 18:47:06 +0000 http://susiemadrak.com/2007/08/08/19/12/no-more-begging/#comment-128712 Sadly, I fear that grepthis is right. Sadly, I fear that grepthis is right.

]]> By: grepthis http://susiemadrak.com/2007/08/08/19/12/no-more-begging/#comment-128711 grepthis Thu, 09 Aug 2007 18:37:02 +0000 http://susiemadrak.com/2007/08/08/19/12/no-more-begging/#comment-128711 Don't run Al. We need a winner, not a loser. He ran an election campaign that put him in a bind then let himself be steamrollered by a better organized, more aggressive, tougher Republican political machine. He pussied out in 2004. Let him do what he does best. He can speak up as an elder statesman and 'speak truth to power' as necessary. Don't run Al. You are not good enough at it. Don’t run Al.

We need a winner, not a loser.

He ran an election campaign that put him in a bind then let himself be steamrollered by a better organized, more aggressive, tougher Republican political machine.

He pussied out in 2004.

Let him do what he does best. He can speak up as an elder statesman and ’speak truth to power’ as necessary.

Don’t run Al. You are not good enough at it.

]]> By: GoatBoy http://susiemadrak.com/2007/08/08/19/12/no-more-begging/#comment-128710 GoatBoy Thu, 09 Aug 2007 17:31:34 +0000 http://susiemadrak.com/2007/08/08/19/12/no-more-begging/#comment-128710 <i>"Al Gore surrounds himself with right wingers."</i> While Hillary Clinton <i>is</i> one. /just sayin “Al Gore surrounds himself with right wingers.”

While Hillary Clinton is one.

/just sayin

]]> By: Susie http://susiemadrak.com/2007/08/08/19/12/no-more-begging/#comment-128709 Susie Thu, 09 Aug 2007 17:26:54 +0000 http://susiemadrak.com/2007/08/08/19/12/no-more-begging/#comment-128709 It got linked to by Atrios's site. It got linked to by Atrios’s site.

]]> By: Dan http://susiemadrak.com/2007/08/08/19/12/no-more-begging/#comment-128704 Dan Thu, 09 Aug 2007 16:53:29 +0000 http://susiemadrak.com/2007/08/08/19/12/no-more-begging/#comment-128704 Al Gore is a briliant man, an advocate for important issues, and a gifted communicator when he isn't trying to sell himself. He is not a good political candidate. I am in awe of the man and would be proud to call him my President, but I think if he were to run it would be more likely to end in embarassment than victory. Al Gore is a briliant man, an advocate for important issues, and a gifted communicator when he isn’t trying to sell himself. He is not a good political candidate. I am in awe of the man and would be proud to call him my President, but I think if he were to run it would be more likely to end in embarassment than victory.

]]> By: Izquierdo http://susiemadrak.com/2007/08/08/19/12/no-more-begging/#comment-128703 Izquierdo Thu, 09 Aug 2007 16:50:44 +0000 http://susiemadrak.com/2007/08/08/19/12/no-more-begging/#comment-128703 56 comments and counting! That's astronomical for this blog. Most items get zero or one, and hardly any ever go into double figures. How come so many on this particular topic, which has been discussed here many times before? What has made all the lurkers suddenly speak up? 56 comments and counting!
That’s astronomical for this blog.
Most items get zero or one, and hardly any ever
go into double figures.
How come so many on this particular topic, which
has been discussed here many times before?
What has made all the lurkers suddenly speak up?

]]> By: Michael Plank http://susiemadrak.com/2007/08/08/19/12/no-more-begging/#comment-128701 Michael Plank Thu, 09 Aug 2007 14:51:51 +0000 http://susiemadrak.com/2007/08/08/19/12/no-more-begging/#comment-128701 #54 refers to #19, BTW. I messed up the block quote function. #54 refers to #19, BTW. I messed up the block quote function.

]]> By: Michael Plank http://susiemadrak.com/2007/08/08/19/12/no-more-begging/#comment-128700 Michael Plank Thu, 09 Aug 2007 14:50:37 +0000 http://susiemadrak.com/2007/08/08/19/12/no-more-begging/#comment-128700 > It's bigger than that. They wanted to throw him under the bus for his association (complicity, if you prefer) with Clintonian centrism, which many progressives regarded as a form of betrayal. Nader's campaign was explicitly premised on this, and inarguably positioned Bush to swipe the election. Nice going. >

It’s bigger than that. They wanted to throw him under the bus for his association (complicity, if you prefer) with Clintonian centrism, which many progressives regarded as a form of betrayal. Nader’s campaign was explicitly premised on this, and inarguably positioned Bush to swipe the election. Nice going.

]]> By: Mooser http://susiemadrak.com/2007/08/08/19/12/no-more-begging/#comment-128699 Mooser Thu, 09 Aug 2007 14:47:06 +0000 http://susiemadrak.com/2007/08/08/19/12/no-more-begging/#comment-128699 While I am cerainly hoping Al Gore will run, if he doesn't I'm available. While I am cerainly hoping Al Gore will run, if he doesn’t I’m available.

]]> By: Dean http://susiemadrak.com/2007/08/08/19/12/no-more-begging/#comment-128693 Dean Thu, 09 Aug 2007 14:07:23 +0000 http://susiemadrak.com/2007/08/08/19/12/no-more-begging/#comment-128693 Sean Says: <em>p.s. Obama will be your VP</em> I'd prefer Edwards but Obama will do. Sean Says:
p.s. Obama will be your VP

I’d prefer Edwards but Obama will do.

]]> By: Th Democratic Base http://susiemadrak.com/2007/08/08/19/12/no-more-begging/#comment-128691 Th Democratic Base Thu, 09 Aug 2007 14:03:51 +0000 http://susiemadrak.com/2007/08/08/19/12/no-more-begging/#comment-128691 Dear Susie, If Al Gore runs for President on the Democratic ticket in 2008, I will not vote for him. Just like I did not vote for him in 2000. I will even vote for Nader before I vote for Al Gore. Yes, I will vote for Hillary Clinton, John Edwards, etc. But Al Gore? No. Why do you ask? Well, Tipper Gore and Joe Lieberman. Al Gore surrounds himself with right wingers. Al Gore should not be President. Sincerely, The Democratic Base Dear Susie,

If Al Gore runs for President on the Democratic ticket in 2008, I will not vote for him.

Just like I did not vote for him in 2000.

I will even vote for Nader before I vote for Al Gore.

Yes, I will vote for Hillary Clinton, John Edwards, etc.

But Al Gore?

No.

Why do you ask? Well, Tipper Gore and Joe Lieberman.

Al Gore surrounds himself with right wingers.

Al Gore should not be President.

Sincerely,

The Democratic Base

]]> By: Cheney's Ass http://susiemadrak.com/2007/08/08/19/12/no-more-begging/#comment-128689 Cheney's Ass Thu, 09 Aug 2007 13:46:05 +0000 http://susiemadrak.com/2007/08/08/19/12/no-more-begging/#comment-128689 If Gore runs, and wins the nomination, (2 very big If's)I would expect him to name Obama as his running mate. I am not giving a dime to any other campaign until I am certain that Al is not running. If Gore runs, and wins the nomination, (2 very big If’s)I would expect him to name Obama as his running mate.

I am not giving a dime to any other campaign until I am certain that Al is not running.

]]> By: Joe Momma http://susiemadrak.com/2007/08/08/19/12/no-more-begging/#comment-128688 Joe Momma Thu, 09 Aug 2007 13:45:23 +0000 http://susiemadrak.com/2007/08/08/19/12/no-more-begging/#comment-128688 <i>2000 aint happening again. No sir.</i> 2000 has been happening again to Hillary, Obama, and John Edwards for months. I doubt that empty promises will do much to convince Al. He's a smart guy - he knows he won't get a fair shake. If I were him, I wouldn't waste my time either. 2000 aint happening again. No sir.

2000 has been happening again to Hillary, Obama, and John Edwards for months. I doubt that empty promises will do much to convince Al. He’s a smart guy - he knows he won’t get a fair shake. If I were him, I wouldn’t waste my time either.

]]> By: Joe Momma http://susiemadrak.com/2007/08/08/19/12/no-more-begging/#comment-128687 Joe Momma Thu, 09 Aug 2007 13:42:23 +0000 http://susiemadrak.com/2007/08/08/19/12/no-more-begging/#comment-128687 You know, I didn't care much for the PMRC stuff either, but the idea that warning labels on records is somehow worse than what Bush has done is pretty silly. You know, I didn’t care much for the PMRC stuff either, but the idea that warning labels on records is somehow worse than what Bush has done is pretty silly.

]]> By: owlbear1 http://susiemadrak.com/2007/08/08/19/12/no-more-begging/#comment-128686 owlbear1 Thu, 09 Aug 2007 13:37:20 +0000 http://susiemadrak.com/2007/08/08/19/12/no-more-begging/#comment-128686 If Al Gore decides to run it OBLITERATE any credibility he has on Global Climate Change. It would be dismissed as propaganda to bolster a Presidential run. The PoTUS also has a duty to look out for US interest and there are many aspects of fighting run away greenhouse that will come in conflict with that duty. Please Al don't run? You'll set back Climate recovery work 10 years if you do... If Al Gore decides to run it OBLITERATE any credibility he has on Global Climate Change. It would be dismissed as propaganda to bolster a Presidential run.

The PoTUS also has a duty to look out for US interest and there are many aspects of fighting run away greenhouse that will come in conflict with that duty.

Please Al don’t run? You’ll set back Climate recovery work 10 years if you do…

]]> By: shawk http://susiemadrak.com/2007/08/08/19/12/no-more-begging/#comment-128684 shawk Thu, 09 Aug 2007 13:06:15 +0000 http://susiemadrak.com/2007/08/08/19/12/no-more-begging/#comment-128684 Mr. Gore will not run for President. That he won't is a reflection on the office and electoral process. Mr. Gore will not run for President.
That he won’t is a reflection on the office and electoral process.

]]> By: Moriarity http://susiemadrak.com/2007/08/08/19/12/no-more-begging/#comment-128683 Moriarity Thu, 09 Aug 2007 13:02:47 +0000 http://susiemadrak.com/2007/08/08/19/12/no-more-begging/#comment-128683 Personally I would never vote for Al Gore, simply because of all the years he actively supported censorship of music lyrics. This is why when he did run and picked Holy Joe as his mate, I voted for Bush. Would I do it again, knowing what I know now? In a heartbeat. --mort Personally I would never vote for Al Gore, simply because of all the years he actively supported censorship of music lyrics.

This is why when he did run and picked Holy Joe as his mate, I voted for Bush. Would I do it again, knowing what I know now? In a heartbeat.

–mort

]]> By: daveinmd http://susiemadrak.com/2007/08/08/19/12/no-more-begging/#comment-128680 daveinmd Thu, 09 Aug 2007 12:56:22 +0000 http://susiemadrak.com/2007/08/08/19/12/no-more-begging/#comment-128680 You heard the word Al - we're waiting. The country needs you now more than ever. Obama will lose to Hillary - Hillary of all people - but will then fit nicely into your campaign as a VP candidate, where you can pass on lessons learned so he can run again after your two terms. Just do it. You heard the word Al - we’re waiting. The country needs you now more than ever. Obama will lose to Hillary - Hillary of all people - but will then fit nicely into your campaign as a VP candidate, where you can pass on lessons learned so he can run again after your two terms.

Just do it.

]]> By: CF2K http://susiemadrak.com/2007/08/08/19/12/no-more-begging/#comment-128679 CF2K Thu, 09 Aug 2007 12:33:25 +0000 http://susiemadrak.com/2007/08/08/19/12/no-more-begging/#comment-128679 Al, we got your back. We're ready for a full-on media beat-down. 2000 aint happening again. No sir. Al, we got your back. We’re ready for a full-on media beat-down. 2000 aint happening again. No sir.

]]> By: michael http://susiemadrak.com/2007/08/08/19/12/no-more-begging/#comment-128678 michael Thu, 09 Aug 2007 12:18:48 +0000 http://susiemadrak.com/2007/08/08/19/12/no-more-begging/#comment-128678 the right candidate is staring us in the face but america can't seem to get past it's shallow appeal to all that's bright and shiny. His name is Dennis Kucinich and he can make things right. grow up america. the right candidate is staring us in the face but america can’t seem to get past it’s shallow appeal to all that’s bright and shiny.

His name is Dennis Kucinich and he can make things right.

grow up america.

]]> By: Some Guy With a Website by August J. Pollak - xoverboard.com http://susiemadrak.com/2007/08/08/19/12/no-more-begging/#comment-128677 Some Guy With a Website by August J. Pollak - xoverboard.com Thu, 09 Aug 2007 11:56:37 +0000 http://susiemadrak.com/2007/08/08/19/12/no-more-begging/#comment-128677 <strong>Le sigh...</strong> At this point, stuff like this is more depressing than inspiring. I think it's really time to abandon the state of denial and accept that Al Gore's not running for president. We're five, possibly four, months away from the Iowa...... Le sigh…

At this point, stuff like this is more depressing than inspiring. I think it’s really time to abandon the state of denial and accept that Al Gore’s not running for president. We’re five, possibly four, months away from the Iowa……

]]> By: Southern Beale http://susiemadrak.com/2007/08/08/19/12/no-more-begging/#comment-128676 Southern Beale Thu, 09 Aug 2007 11:12:26 +0000 http://susiemadrak.com/2007/08/08/19/12/no-more-begging/#comment-128676 Much as it pains me to say this, Al is not running. Not now, not ever. I live in Tennessee, no one would like to see the Tennessee wrestling match of Al vs Fred more than I. But, it's not gonna happen. Sorry. Much as it pains me to say this, Al is not running. Not now, not ever. I live in Tennessee, no one would like to see the Tennessee wrestling match of Al vs Fred more than I. But, it’s not gonna happen.

Sorry.

]]> By: JoAnne http://susiemadrak.com/2007/08/08/19/12/no-more-begging/#comment-128675 JoAnne Thu, 09 Aug 2007 10:46:59 +0000 http://susiemadrak.com/2007/08/08/19/12/no-more-begging/#comment-128675 Incredible. A vacillating, indecisive former (add titles) goes Hollywood and that makes him presidential material? I don't think so. Incredible. A vacillating, indecisive former (add titles) goes Hollywood and that makes him presidential material? I don’t think so.

]]> By: Helena Montana http://susiemadrak.com/2007/08/08/19/12/no-more-begging/#comment-128674 Helena Montana Thu, 09 Aug 2007 09:26:38 +0000 http://susiemadrak.com/2007/08/08/19/12/no-more-begging/#comment-128674 If Gore ran he would be crucified by the media, the GOP, and the rest of the so-called Democrats running. Why on earth would he put himself through all that? Unless he has a campaign organization that has already been secretly put in place with really sharp key people (meaning none of the traditional Dem consultants), and heavy financing all lined up, he wouldn't have a prayer. I say again, why would he put himself through it? I intend to write him in on my ballot, in both the primary and general elections, not that it will change the fact that sickeningly enough, Hillary Clinton, She Who Has Been Annointed By The Media As The Winner, will be our next president. If Gore ran he would be crucified by the media, the GOP, and the rest of the so-called Democrats running. Why on earth would he put himself through all that?

Unless he has a campaign organization that has already been secretly put in place with really sharp key people (meaning none of the traditional Dem consultants), and heavy financing all lined up, he wouldn’t have a prayer.

I say again, why would he put himself through it?

I intend to write him in on my ballot, in both the primary and general elections, not that it will change the fact that sickeningly enough, Hillary Clinton, She Who Has Been Annointed By The Media As The Winner, will be our next president.

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