Crying Time
Jan 12th, 2008 at 5:35 pm by Susie
See, I didn’t believe any of those people who accused Clinton of crying on purpose - but I just saw her do it again (on CNN), while talking to some 65-year-old lady in Reno who was losing her home. Wiped her eyes, got the little catch in her throat…
Hillary, hon, it’s not special anymore.
UPDATE: This from the comments over at Kevin’s place:
I saw that lady speak on CNN. What was funny about it, was she sat there in national TV and named corporations who instructed her to commit fraud.
The lady said that Quicken Loans instructed her to sign a loan application stating her monthly income was $8K. The lady said she doesn’t even know anyone who makes $8K per month.
Then, she said Countrywide had her sign an ARM using a bogus appraisal that was $80K overvalued, assuring her she could refinance in six months.
In six months, the prices had dropped and Countrywide would no longer refinance her loan.
The lady had been putting her recent payments on her credit card. She is on the verge of losing her home.
The funniest part (if you consider it funny), is that Hillary said the lady should be allowed to refinance at a rate she could afford. To do that, the lady would be looking at an 80 year mortgage (she is 65 years old).
So…while Hillary wants to help those with bad loans, her main solution would be to give these people 50-60-70+ year mortgages where they would be paying mostly interest for the first 40-50 years.
Personally, I prefer a president who will strongly pursue those corporations for breaking the law - but that’s just me.
I wouldn’t mind if she kept up that “softer” voice for the rest of the campaign, tho. Her normal public speaking voice grates on me like nails on a chalkboard. She’s got a voice that doesn’t sound like she’s telling you to go in the kitchen and do the dishes, and that’s the one that I’d prefer to hear policy choices expressed in.
If I ran into a 65 year old lady who was losing her home, it’d be pretty hard for me not to cry. That’s why I could never run for president.
It sure looks like, since it paid off in New Hampshire, she’s going to let the waterworks loose at every opportunity. Hey, more power to her, you gotta do what you gotta do to win. But it was creepy to watch.
she should laugh. it plays republican.
Great, if she keeps it up, people will think she’s mentally unstable and vote for someone else. And can you imagine the general election ads the GOP would run, suggesting that she thinks crying is the way to get what you want from, say, Kim Jong Il or Osama bin Laden?
But what do I know? I’m just a Hillary hater because I support another candidate…
I’m with Rob Carlson.
Man, that voice just grates. Shame on me for focusing on style over substance, but still…
But she is tough and strong.
No she is not that tough and strong when she loses Iowa.
Then she is tough and strong again.
Until she is not that tough and strong.
This person is a joke.
“Man, that voice just grates. Shame on me for focusing on style over substance, but still…”
And her grating voice tends to be a monotone, which doesn’t help.
I’ve been at Hillary events two or three times, and she comes across much better in person than she does on TV.
Shit, thanks, Susie. That’s a bit depressing, since my own view of her original emotion was that it was genuine.
Here’s the problem, though: What if it was genuine both times, and her resistance to being portayed as a “girl” was what kept her from doing it up ’til now?
She’s screwed no matter what. And I’m on the Edwards ballot in IL 10 for delegate, so it isn’t like I’m a big fan.
She would/will still be better than anything running against her, so I’m trying to see the bright side.
Who knows? I just thought it seemed very real the first time - and very fake the second.
I’ll judge it myself when and if I see it.
At this point, with all the wildly different interpretations of events and rabid reactions to anything Hillary, I’m finding it hard to trust anyone. The screaming misogyny (from both men and women) on so many liberal sites really broke my heart. I was a KOS fan but that place is a swamp these days. But I have learned a great lesson - liberals get just as whacked as republicans. Unity my friends. Unity, right?
Since in NH there was an effortless segue into a bloodless attack on Obama in the next sentence (that never gets played), I never believed it was anything but cynical the first time. You’re trying to tell me that just before the evening news on the final news cycle of the NH primary she happened to show this one bit of emotion? And never before? Wow, what a fortunate co-inky-dink! What a break she caught with the timing and all that. Man, she’s lucky. We are neither an adult nor serious country, if this is the kind of thing that changes your mind about who would be the best president.
Yes, Hillary is often fake and it is disturbing. Yet often she is not. I am not aware of any politicians who are not fake, so why the ranting about Hillary? Why the all the noise about her voice? Sometimes it grates. Be brave. GET OVER IT. She is the best candidate by far in the Dem race. She would be a great president. The people attacking her are often really sick, and they are a measure of how far this culture has to go to reach mere normalcy.
By the way has anyone anywhere ever noticed that Obama is a dirty campaigner who is now using race on both Clintons and who spent months in the senate without saying a word on the war only to obsessively attack Clinton for having “helped to engineer” it? Come on, he acts like a Messiah, but he wallows in dirt.
You know what? I think Hillary Clinton is a smart, talented person who really works hard for our country. The problem is, I don’t agree with many of her positions. Hell, I didn’t agree with many of her husband’s positions, either.
As to her being a great president - well, that’s the point of all this obsessing. No one wants to buy another pig in a poke like voters did with Bush, but there’s simply no good way to tell if a candidate will be great, merely competent or a disaster. Hence, all the guessing.
We just don’t know.
They all act like politicians and all politicians have to have a little actor in them. Hillary has no role model for this. We’ve never had a woman mount a serious presidential candidacy before. She’s in uncharted territory. Just saw her on MTP and she interrupted Russert a number of times which I like to see. Didn’t see the second emotional moment yday but it sounds like she’s overplaying that hand like I thought she might.
This country is in for a world of hurt over the next decade thanks to 28 years of Republican policies. Snf it could really spiral out of control unless we have a Dem president with broad support. We’re looking for a president who won’t just mitigate those problems but develop new policies and get them enacted into law that will put us on a better path. Hillary might empathize with our plight but I don’t see her being able to propose let alone enact the kind of policies that will get us turned around. She has too many scars and too much Wall St. money. Obama can and will.
Look at the endorsements he’s getting from Nelson, McCaskill, Napolitano etc. These people are on his bandwagon because they know he and his policies will be acceptable in their conservative states. He’ll have coattails in November that’ll help them and their local parties. Hillary? She’ll get crushed in NE and AZ and so will anybody running under her on the ticket.
“Obama is a dirty campaigner who is now using race on both Clintons”
Not true. Obama has no desire to make race a part of the campaign. It doesn’t help him. If invoking race in presidential campaigns is such a winning strategy, why didn’t Jesse Jackson get the nomination way back when?
The Clintons have made race an issue all on their own. Hillary’s desire to rebut Obama’s invocation of MLK’s idea against Hillary’s “false hope” line from the debate led her to make the dumb mistake of appearing to belittle MLK’s role in the civil rights struggle. Bill then compounded the problem with is clumsily phrased “fairy tale” attack. They’ve been doing damage control ever since. Blame should go where it belongs.
I talked to Hillary in Reno, just to watch her cry…
…ltc, momentarily possessed by xkcd
This is a dumb complaint. Where is your commentary about Romney tearing up, or would that not be in accord with your political agenda?
…After his eyes filled with tears for the third time in as many weeks on the presidential campaign trail, Mitt Romney explained that, no, he is not immune to sadness and grief.
“I’m a normal person. I have emotions,” Romney told reporters in New Hampshire. “I’m not ashamed of that at all.”….
A candidate could remain on a podium reading glorious phrases that echo Bushspeak from 2001 from a teleprompter, or the candidate could mingle with the people. When you opt to hear peoples’ stories, you are going to hear some that will have an emotional impact.
Perhaps that’s phony to elitists like you. So be it.
“Elitist”? Me? LOL
I didn’t write about Romney because I didn’t see it. Nothing more complicated than that.
Got a link so we can see it and judge for ourselves?
I don’t have a link. I saw it on CNN Saturday, when they had live coverage of all the campaigns.
Many of the tricks are now out on the table. Race? Check. Gender? Check. Religion? Check. Age? Check. Clenis? Check. Iraq? Check. We can hope this is a good shakeout of all the slams, slimes and spams Repubs will use. Candidates are getting accustomed to them and practicing their responses, we’re learning how they affect the polls and the results, the electorate is better innoculated against them so they are losing their juju.
That’s always been a value of primaries, and onlookers especally those prone to comment on blogs, need to settle down. It’s normal. Race and gender NEED to be implied and discussed and contested now. It’s the shakedown cruise for November. Both HRC and BHO should be on the ticket. The job of the rank and file is to keep them honest and the results close so they understand they have to be the team.
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