Comments on: Amen http://susiemadrak.com/2008/03/01/12/56/amen-17/ Keeping a jaundiced eye on the corporate media. Tue, 07 Oct 2008 11:12:31 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6 By: amy http://susiemadrak.com/2008/03/01/12/56/amen-17/#comment-137500 amy Sun, 02 Mar 2008 08:52:36 +0000 http://susiemadrak.com/2008/03/01/12/56/amen-17/#comment-137500 I understand that his lengthy background in constitutional law, which includes a stint teaching at the University of Chicago law school, has led him to conclude that Bush,et.al. should not be impeached, because impeachment should be reserved for "high crimes". That, of course, is the constitutional language, but I cannot imagine what planet he is living on if he think their actions do not meet that standard! Last June 27th he said, "I think you reserve impeachment for grave, grave breaches, and intentional breaches of the president's authority" " I believe if we began impeachment proceedings we will be engulfed in more of the politics that has made Washington dysfunction," he added. "We would once again, rather than attending to the people's business, be engaged in a tit-for-tat, back-and-forth, non-stop circus." I understand that his lengthy background in constitutional law, which includes a stint teaching at the University of Chicago law school, has led him to conclude that Bush,et.al. should not be impeached, because impeachment should be reserved for “high crimes”. That, of course, is the constitutional language, but I cannot imagine what planet he is living on if he think their actions do not meet that standard!
Last June 27th he said, “I think you reserve impeachment for grave, grave breaches, and intentional breaches of the president’s authority”

” I believe if we began impeachment proceedings we will be engulfed in more of the politics that has made Washington dysfunction,” he added. “We would once again, rather than attending to the people’s business, be engaged in a tit-for-tat, back-and-forth, non-stop circus.”

]]> By: memyself http://susiemadrak.com/2008/03/01/12/56/amen-17/#comment-137471 memyself Sun, 02 Mar 2008 00:24:41 +0000 http://susiemadrak.com/2008/03/01/12/56/amen-17/#comment-137471 "any implication that Obama should do something is taken as a repudiation of his divinity? " Wow, apparently pointing out an inaccurate claim is now sufficient cause to smear someone. Nice. real nice. The posting calls for Obama to do something he's already done and to be something he's already demonstrated he is. How on earth is pointing out specific information that contradicts the posting indicative that anyone thinks Obama is godlike? “any implication that Obama should do something is taken as a repudiation of his divinity? ”

Wow, apparently pointing out an inaccurate claim is now sufficient cause to smear someone.

Nice. real nice.

The posting calls for Obama to do something he’s already done and to be something he’s already demonstrated he is. How on earth is pointing out specific information that contradicts the posting indicative that anyone thinks Obama is godlike?

]]> By: Ron http://susiemadrak.com/2008/03/01/12/56/amen-17/#comment-137457 Ron Sat, 01 Mar 2008 22:25:51 +0000 http://susiemadrak.com/2008/03/01/12/56/amen-17/#comment-137457 Notice how any implication that Obama should do something is taken as a repudiation of his divinity? I watched the guy and he's gives great speech, but try as I might I just can't make out the halo. 'Course, I'm one of those who feel a certain amount of pride in being uninterested in being taken up by the rapture, too. I'll be happy if he can just bring back honest government and I'll not be crushed when he continues protection of our corporate masters. Notice how any implication that Obama should do something is taken as a repudiation of his divinity? I watched the guy and he’s gives great speech, but try as I might I just can’t make out the halo. ‘Course, I’m one of those who feel a certain amount of pride in being uninterested in being taken up by the rapture, too. I’ll be happy if he can just bring back honest government and I’ll not be crushed when he continues protection of our corporate masters.

]]> By: memyself http://susiemadrak.com/2008/03/01/12/56/amen-17/#comment-137443 memyself Sat, 01 Mar 2008 19:13:40 +0000 http://susiemadrak.com/2008/03/01/12/56/amen-17/#comment-137443 Hmmm, good idea, a speech that talks about the constitution and where America has been going wrong and needs to change. Maybe one like this one: http://www.cfr.org/publication/13974/obamas_speech_at_woodrow_wilson_center.html Just because the lazy press didn't cover it doesn't mean it didn't happen. It took me all of 2 minutes to find this. As to the "made of glass" comment. Frankly, that one made me spit coffee on my keyboard because it made me laugh out load. There are many Obama supporters who cite his and his team's rapid and effective response to political attacks as the MOST important reason to support him. These folks write copious comments about how difficult it will be for Republican to swiftboat him effectively because of this. They don't want a repeat of Kerry's campaign and see clear signs that Obama is the anti-Kerry in this one regard, and are very heartened by that fact. Do you realize how incredibly quickly and effectively his campaign responded to Clinton's fear in the night ad? It was impressive whether you agree with him or not. Unfortunately I'm afraid giving a "shame on you" speech that is widely perceived as whining and nagging just isn't anywhere near as effective and McCain seems to be way behind the curve on this as well. Hmmm, good idea, a speech that talks about the constitution and where America has been going wrong and needs to change. Maybe one like this one:

http://www.cfr.org/publication/13974/obamas_speech_at_woodrow_wilson_center.html

Just because the lazy press didn’t cover it doesn’t mean it didn’t happen. It took me all of 2 minutes to find this.

As to the “made of glass” comment. Frankly, that one made me spit coffee on my keyboard because it made me laugh out load.

There are many Obama supporters who cite his and his team’s rapid and effective response to political attacks as the MOST important reason to support him. These folks write copious comments about how difficult it will be for Republican to swiftboat him effectively because of this.

They don’t want a repeat of Kerry’s campaign and see clear signs that Obama is the anti-Kerry in this one regard, and are very heartened by that fact.

Do you realize how incredibly quickly and effectively his campaign responded to Clinton’s fear in the night ad? It was impressive whether you agree with him or not. Unfortunately I’m afraid giving a “shame on you” speech that is widely perceived as whining and nagging just isn’t anywhere near as effective and McCain seems to be way behind the curve on this as well.

]]> By: Barry Walden http://susiemadrak.com/2008/03/01/12/56/amen-17/#comment-137430 Barry Walden Sat, 01 Mar 2008 18:32:39 +0000 http://susiemadrak.com/2008/03/01/12/56/amen-17/#comment-137430 Where did you get the idea that Obama fans "think he is made of glass"? Obama has done an admirable job in responding very quickly and effectively to slams from the right. Much more effectively than has been done by liberals and progressives for a long time, I might add. And what do you think Obama has been doing if not telling his audiences that we need to stop running roughshod over the constitution? Do you think he has not been specific in his criticisms of what has been going on in the current administration? Do you not think he has said we need to change the way we conduct our foreign policy? I wonder why, then, that the Shrub has seen fit to criticise his "I will talk" stance? I agree that he needs to continue to spell out exactly what he intends to do differently than Cheney et al (because that's who has been running things), but I really think he has been doing that. Where did you get the idea that Obama fans “think he is made of glass”? Obama has done an admirable job in responding very quickly and effectively to slams from the right. Much more effectively than has been done by liberals and progressives for a long time, I might add.
And what do you think Obama has been doing if not telling his audiences that we need to stop running roughshod over the constitution? Do you think he has not been specific in his criticisms of what has been going on in the current administration? Do you not think he has said we need to change the way we conduct our foreign policy? I wonder why, then, that the Shrub has seen fit to criticise his “I will talk” stance?
I agree that he needs to continue to spell out exactly what he intends to do differently than Cheney et al (because that’s who has been running things), but I really think he has been doing that.

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