Comments on: Rules http://susiemadrak.com/2008/04/06/13/11/rules/ Keeping a jaundiced eye on the corporate media. Thu, 04 Dec 2008 00:13:36 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6 By: memyself http://susiemadrak.com/2008/04/06/13/11/rules/#comment-140363 memyself Mon, 07 Apr 2008 14:22:50 +0000 http://susiemadrak.com/2008/04/06/13/11/rules/#comment-140363 She gave multiple news conferences just before the primary in which she explicitly touted the fact that SHE (and only she) was going to fight to get Florida seated at the convention. She knew this would play extremely well in Florida and it was obviously directed to Florida voters. Yes, she was careful to not be standing on Florida soil when she did this, but come on, this was blatant and obvious. They are both guilty of breaking the rules. She was sneakier and more effective, but how can anyone claim she should actually be rewarded for that. She gave multiple news conferences just before the primary in which she explicitly touted the fact that SHE (and only she) was going to fight to get Florida seated at the convention. She knew this would play extremely well in Florida and it was obviously directed to Florida voters. Yes, she was careful to not be standing on Florida soil when she did this, but come on, this was blatant and obvious.

They are both guilty of breaking the rules. She was sneakier and more effective, but how can anyone claim she should actually be rewarded for that.

]]> By: Susie http://susiemadrak.com/2008/04/06/13/11/rules/#comment-140360 Susie Mon, 07 Apr 2008 13:12:27 +0000 http://susiemadrak.com/2008/04/06/13/11/rules/#comment-140360 She was in Florida for a fundraiser, which is permitted under the rules. She was in Florida for a fundraiser, which is permitted under the rules.

]]> By: memyself http://susiemadrak.com/2008/04/06/13/11/rules/#comment-140342 memyself Mon, 07 Apr 2008 02:02:18 +0000 http://susiemadrak.com/2008/04/06/13/11/rules/#comment-140342 Sure smells like campaigning. Of course it depends on what your definition of "in" is. The message was clearly aimed at Florida voters and was broadcast in Florida. http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/01/27/clinton-heading-to-florida-tuesday/ Sure smells like campaigning. Of course it depends on what your definition of “in” is. The message was clearly aimed at Florida voters and was broadcast in Florida.

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/01/27/clinton-heading-to-florida-tuesday/

]]> By: memyself http://susiemadrak.com/2008/04/06/13/11/rules/#comment-140331 memyself Sun, 06 Apr 2008 23:49:22 +0000 http://susiemadrak.com/2008/04/06/13/11/rules/#comment-140331 "Sure Obama intended the state to be seated and voting - if he’d won." Just as Clinton is now trying to do? I guess everyone (including this 57 YO white woman) are sexist if we call bullshit on her sudden conversion to champion for the voters SHE agree to disenfranchise? They are BOTH behaving like politicians. Big whoop. “Sure Obama intended the state to be seated and voting - if he’d won.”

Just as Clinton is now trying to do? I guess everyone (including this 57 YO white woman) are sexist if we call bullshit on her sudden conversion to champion for the voters SHE agree to disenfranchise?

They are BOTH behaving like politicians. Big whoop.

]]> By: zuzu http://susiemadrak.com/2008/04/06/13/11/rules/#comment-140330 zuzu Sun, 06 Apr 2008 23:32:04 +0000 http://susiemadrak.com/2008/04/06/13/11/rules/#comment-140330 <i>The pledge covers anything referred to in Democratic National Committee rules as “campaigning,” and those include “holding news conferences.” Obama seemed unaware the pledge he signed prohibits news conferences. Asked whether he was violating it, he said, “I was just doing you guys a favor. … If that’s the case, then we won’t do it again.”</i> It's not just in the pledge; it's in the RULZ that candidates can't campaign in any state that violates the timing rules. And the definition of "campaigning" is spelled out, as are the penalties. Which include, BTW, having any delegates from the state in which you campaigned in violation of the rules stripped. Which kind of makes me think they don't want a showdown over MI and FL because they don't want Hillary to press that issue. The pledge covers anything referred to in Democratic National Committee rules as “campaigning,” and those include “holding news conferences.”

Obama seemed unaware the pledge he signed prohibits news conferences. Asked whether he was violating it, he said, “I was just doing you guys a favor. … If that’s the case, then we won’t do it again.”

It’s not just in the pledge; it’s in the RULZ that candidates can’t campaign in any state that violates the timing rules. And the definition of “campaigning” is spelled out, as are the penalties.

Which include, BTW, having any delegates from the state in which you campaigned in violation of the rules stripped. Which kind of makes me think they don’t want a showdown over MI and FL because they don’t want Hillary to press that issue.

]]> By: sister of ye http://susiemadrak.com/2008/04/06/13/11/rules/#comment-140326 sister of ye Sun, 06 Apr 2008 23:12:08 +0000 http://susiemadrak.com/2008/04/06/13/11/rules/#comment-140326 Sure Obama intended the state to be seated and voting - if he'd won. Just as his surrogates ran ads before MI's primary pushing "uncommitted" as a vote for him. They wouldn't have done that if they hadn't expected it to benefit him. The tune changed when Clinton pulled a solid majoirty of the vote. Detroit's government isn't the famous machine Chicago's is, but we've had our share of hucksters, including black politicians who loudy cry "racism!" when their actions catch up with them. Obama's campaign is a story I've read too many times before. Sure Obama intended the state to be seated and voting - if he’d won. Just as his surrogates ran ads before MI’s primary pushing “uncommitted” as a vote for him. They wouldn’t have done that if they hadn’t expected it to benefit him. The tune changed when Clinton pulled a solid majoirty of the vote.

Detroit’s government isn’t the famous machine Chicago’s is, but we’ve had our share of hucksters, including black politicians who loudy cry “racism!” when their actions catch up with them. Obama’s campaign is a story I’ve read too many times before.

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