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Apr 7th, 2008 at 10:47 am by Susie
Before you insist that Florida deserves to lose its convention delegation, I suggest you go here and watch the 80-minute hearing that stripped them of delegates. Pay close attention to the allegedly undecided Donna Brazile, and then tell me this is fair.
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i don’t think you have to watch the hearing to know it’s unfair. stripping florida and michigan of their delegates is unfair and stupid no matter what sort of hearing they held over it. is that even controversial here?
That meeting was in August 2007. Was it so obvious then that Hillary needed Florida to win? She certainly didn’t think so, so I don’t see why Donna Brazile would.
You can talk all you want about what was decided last summer, but it’s not last summer anymore - the situation now is far from what anyone expected then.
The fact is that you have two large, electoral-vote packed states who are mad as hell at not having their votes counted. We don’t care about finger-pointing at state leadership or yelling about THE ROOLZ. The DNC has to face the fact that if they want our votes in the general, they have to listen to us now.
Wise leadership involves knowing when to hold the line and when to be flexible in response to changing facts.
Were I an advisor to a candidate in any future Democratic primary my approach to dealing with the DNC would be simple: agree to anything they ask for, after agreeing do whatever is in my candidates best interests, and scream from the rooftops about “democracy” and “inclusion” if it looked as though the DNC might actually have a spine and uphold what they had already announced they would do.
To do otherwise would be dumb, dumb, dumb. To do otherwise would also be to act in an ethical manner, but ethics aren’t gonna get you anywhere if the DNC is involved.
Silly ROOLZ - who needs em?
What a shame to see the Democratic Party acting like the Supreme Court circa 2000! “Stop counting! Don’t count the votes because counting will disadvantage our chosen one!”
The DNC will not recieve a penny of my money until Howard Dean re-enfranchises the citizens of Florida and Michigan.
Sweet Sue @ 5 – sorry, there is absolutely no comparison between the two. None. Federal elections are constitutionally protected – ie voters can actually be disenfranchised. Party primaries are private elections and are not constitutionally protected.
Most people are as “disenfranchised” every four years as you are claiming FL and MI voters are this time around. Has anyone voting in any Republican primary since Huckabee dropped out not essentially been “disenfranchised”? After all, all they can do is vote for McCain or not bother. That’s the reality for most people in most primaries. Primary campaigns lasting this long are the exception not the rule. Why did FL and MI push up the dates of their votes even though they had been told their delegations wouldn’t be seated if they did so? Because they wanted their votes to be cast early enough to have an impact.
Look, I personally think the DNC did the right thing – they control the primary process. What’s the alternative? No punishment? That would work out great, wouldn’t it? Why would any state wait to hold a later primary if they could set their own date and know no punishment would be handed down? But even if you think they should have let two states jump the gun and push themselves ahead of all the remaining states (and please don’t for a second lose site of that fact – those two states moved their votes up specifically to become more powerful at the expense of other states – so who’s disenfranchising who?) once they acted and meted out the punishment reneging on that can only be viewed as piling another mistake on top of a series of mistakes.
As for your other point, my God you really don’t follow Democratic Party politics at all do you? Obama is the party insider chosen one? That’s laughably wrong. Clinton came to the starting line with the DNC in her hip pocket. That’s why she was viewed as all but inevitable, had a huge lead in funds and endorsements, and didn’t even bother to plan beyond Super Tuesday, when she and the other party insiders assumed she’d have it all sewn up. She isn’t loosing today because the DNC is against her; she’s loosing today because even with the backing of the DNC, her front-loaded, ignore the caucuses strategy proved disastrous.
If you want to work against the insider candidate, work against Clinton.