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	<title>Comments on: What Does It Take To Have A Rational Discussion About Race?</title>
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	<description>Keeping a jaundiced eye on the corporate media.</description>
	<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 04:53:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: k</title>
		<link>http://susiemadrak.com/2008/04/26/08/27/what-does-it-take-to-have-a-rational-discussion-about-race/#comment-141926</link>
		<dc:creator>k</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Apr 2008 20:51:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"Wouldn’t it be refreshing to have discussions about the above — to be able to have these questions explored without fear of reprisal and denial?"
Yeah, it would.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Wouldn’t it be refreshing to have discussions about the above — to be able to have these questions explored without fear of reprisal and denial?&#8221;<br />
Yeah, it would.</p>
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		<title>By: Nancy</title>
		<link>http://susiemadrak.com/2008/04/26/08/27/what-does-it-take-to-have-a-rational-discussion-about-race/#comment-141914</link>
		<dc:creator>Nancy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Apr 2008 18:21:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>susie, bravo for bringing this up.  this is right on target.  the prez election has brought a lot of this up to the surface; i see the discomfort among progressives everywhere whenever the topic comes up.  

if the msm or a-list bloggers like kos or huff actually gave a fig about racism, they'd do a series on modern race issues with racialicious or the naacp or tavis smiley, et al to start a productive discussion that actually informs people and works toward a solution.  but this primary season's made it clear that the biggest players (big media, big blogs) don't give a crap about productive discussions or solutions--they'd rather exploit the problem and make it even bigger for their own self-serving purposes.  same goes for obama's campaign.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>susie, bravo for bringing this up.  this is right on target.  the prez election has brought a lot of this up to the surface; i see the discomfort among progressives everywhere whenever the topic comes up.  </p>
<p>if the msm or a-list bloggers like kos or huff actually gave a fig about racism, they&#8217;d do a series on modern race issues with racialicious or the naacp or tavis smiley, et al to start a productive discussion that actually informs people and works toward a solution.  but this primary season&#8217;s made it clear that the biggest players (big media, big blogs) don&#8217;t give a crap about productive discussions or solutions&#8211;they&#8217;d rather exploit the problem and make it even bigger for their own self-serving purposes.  same goes for obama&#8217;s campaign.</p>
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		<title>By: Izquierdo</title>
		<link>http://susiemadrak.com/2008/04/26/08/27/what-does-it-take-to-have-a-rational-discussion-about-race/#comment-141911</link>
		<dc:creator>Izquierdo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Apr 2008 17:40:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Gee, go to the high-crime areas and you notice a number of things. One is the plethora of layabout young lads during working hours. You think maybe they could get work, or at least look,&lt;/i&gt;

The highest-crime areas I know of are 1600 Pennsylvania Ave., the US Capitol buildinhg, Crawford TX, and Camp David.

Do they have a plethora of layabout young lads during working hours?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Gee, go to the high-crime areas and you notice a number of things. One is the plethora of layabout young lads during working hours. You think maybe they could get work, or at least look,</i></p>
<p>The highest-crime areas I know of are 1600 Pennsylvania Ave., the US Capitol buildinhg, Crawford TX, and Camp David.</p>
<p>Do they have a plethora of layabout young lads during working hours?</p>
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		<title>By: memyself</title>
		<link>http://susiemadrak.com/2008/04/26/08/27/what-does-it-take-to-have-a-rational-discussion-about-race/#comment-141904</link>
		<dc:creator>memyself</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Apr 2008 15:30:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"Doesn’t take a rocket scientist to figure out the response to that."

Yeah - I think  "take your crap to redstate or lgf" is an appropriate response to your swill.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Doesn’t take a rocket scientist to figure out the response to that.&#8221;</p>
<p>Yeah - I think  &#8220;take your crap to redstate or lgf&#8221; is an appropriate response to your swill.</p>
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		<title>By: Mold</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mold</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Apr 2008 14:36:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ohmigod, there are unreconstructed racists.  In Pennsyltucky.  Call the SCLM.  
Being old and pudgy, I can recall times when folks of darker hue could be called ni**er to their face.  The ability of an AfAm citizen to run for President in my life is wonderous.  It shows how far we've come.
Gee, go to the high-crime areas and you notice a number of things.  One is the plethora of layabout young lads during working hours.  You think maybe they could get work, or at least look.  In many cases these fellows sneer at incomes that provide for entire families, especially north of Rt 80.  Doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out the response to that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ohmigod, there are unreconstructed racists.  In Pennsyltucky.  Call the SCLM.<br />
Being old and pudgy, I can recall times when folks of darker hue could be called ni**er to their face.  The ability of an AfAm citizen to run for President in my life is wonderous.  It shows how far we&#8217;ve come.<br />
Gee, go to the high-crime areas and you notice a number of things.  One is the plethora of layabout young lads during working hours.  You think maybe they could get work, or at least look.  In many cases these fellows sneer at incomes that provide for entire families, especially north of Rt 80.  Doesn&#8217;t take a rocket scientist to figure out the response to that.</p>
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		<title>By: Ron</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Apr 2008 13:13:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The main reason we can't face this problem very easily is that racism and capitalism were born together in Europe in the 17th century.  The justification for imposing white, eurocentric religion, values and political domination on the rest of the (non-white) world is that the 'white race' is the only one really capable of realizing full human potential (as Kant put it) and needs to colonize, to instruct (and to accumulate capital from) all the rest.

If we confront this racist logic directly, all the justification for our arrogant foreign policy (like bombing countries into the stone age, killing hundreds of thousands of innocent (non-white) people) is called into question. 

And, let's face it, that is the side on which our bread is buttered.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The main reason we can&#8217;t face this problem very easily is that racism and capitalism were born together in Europe in the 17th century.  The justification for imposing white, eurocentric religion, values and political domination on the rest of the (non-white) world is that the &#8216;white race&#8217; is the only one really capable of realizing full human potential (as Kant put it) and needs to colonize, to instruct (and to accumulate capital from) all the rest.</p>
<p>If we confront this racist logic directly, all the justification for our arrogant foreign policy (like bombing countries into the stone age, killing hundreds of thousands of innocent (non-white) people) is called into question. </p>
<p>And, let&#8217;s face it, that is the side on which our bread is buttered.</p>
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