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	<description>Keeping a jaundiced eye on the corporate media.</description>
	<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 05:15:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: jawbone</title>
		<link>http://susiemadrak.com/2008/04/30/21/39/just-plain-stupid/#comment-142281</link>
		<dc:creator>jawbone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2008 04:34:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought the VA St Police cleared WVWV?</description>
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		<title>By: brendancalling</title>
		<link>http://susiemadrak.com/2008/04/30/21/39/just-plain-stupid/#comment-142245</link>
		<dc:creator>brendancalling</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 May 2008 17:39:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love it when Lambert makes his pronouncements, because it seems that anyone that has a different point of view is simply mentally ill.

&lt;a href="http://www.vsp.state.va.us/News/2008/news_release_02-08-08_NR-5.shtm" rel="nofollow"&gt;the virginia state police&lt;/a&gt;?  Cuckoo.

&lt;a href="http://wamu.org/news/08/02/08.php" rel="nofollow"&gt;The Virginia Board of Elections&lt;/a&gt;?  Schizophrenics. And in the tank for Obama.

&lt;a href="http://www.azsos.gov/releases/2007/pressrelease22.htm?PrintMe=Y" rel="nofollow"&gt;Arizona Secretary of State&lt;/a&gt;?  Well, she's clearly mentally ill, so no one should listen to what that crazy cat lady says.

&lt;a href="http://southernstudies.org/facingsouth/2008/04/facing-south-exclusive-dc-nonprofit.asp" rel="nofollow"&gt;Yes, everyone who's complained about WVWV, all the way back to 2007, are total nutballs. And liars.  And all of them hate Hillary Clinton.&lt;/a&gt;

I know this because Lambert says so.  After all, he's totally unbiased, doesn't have a dog in the fight or anything like that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love it when Lambert makes his pronouncements, because it seems that anyone that has a different point of view is simply mentally ill.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.vsp.state.va.us/News/2008/news_release_02-08-08_NR-5.shtm" rel="nofollow">the virginia state police</a>?  Cuckoo.</p>
<p><a href="http://wamu.org/news/08/02/08.php" rel="nofollow">The Virginia Board of Elections</a>?  Schizophrenics. And in the tank for Obama.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.azsos.gov/releases/2007/pressrelease22.htm?PrintMe=Y" rel="nofollow">Arizona Secretary of State</a>?  Well, she&#8217;s clearly mentally ill, so no one should listen to what that crazy cat lady says.</p>
<p><a href="http://southernstudies.org/facingsouth/2008/04/facing-south-exclusive-dc-nonprofit.asp" rel="nofollow">Yes, everyone who&#8217;s complained about WVWV, all the way back to 2007, are total nutballs. And liars.  And all of them hate Hillary Clinton.</a></p>
<p>I know this because Lambert says so.  After all, he&#8217;s totally unbiased, doesn&#8217;t have a dog in the fight or anything like that.</p>
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		<title>By: steveeboy</title>
		<link>http://susiemadrak.com/2008/04/30/21/39/just-plain-stupid/#comment-142236</link>
		<dc:creator>steveeboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 May 2008 14:36:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>so, we cannot use right wing talking points, words, or memes, 

BUT,

we can use "clinton derangement syndrome" which is derived from the Malkin lexicon-favorite "bush derangement syndrome"???

just trying to the keep the allowed words straight.

I need a reminder periodic... er,   occasionally!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>so, we cannot use right wing talking points, words, or memes, </p>
<p>BUT,</p>
<p>we can use &#8220;clinton derangement syndrome&#8221; which is derived from the Malkin lexicon-favorite &#8220;bush derangement syndrome&#8221;???</p>
<p>just trying to the keep the allowed words straight.</p>
<p>I need a reminder periodic&#8230; er,   occasionally!</p>
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		<title>By: lambert strether</title>
		<link>http://susiemadrak.com/2008/04/30/21/39/just-plain-stupid/#comment-142233</link>
		<dc:creator>lambert strether</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 May 2008 13:24:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>naz --

I blame Clintonian Mind Control&#8482;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>naz &#8211;</p>
<p>I blame Clintonian Mind Control&trade;</p>
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		<title>By: joe</title>
		<link>http://susiemadrak.com/2008/04/30/21/39/just-plain-stupid/#comment-142231</link>
		<dc:creator>joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 May 2008 12:58:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>naz-

thanks for your concern but take a moment to reflect on your own actions before throwing at glass houses...

I read the links.  No one can rationally deny this whole thing is smelly and will somewhat stick to hrc.  

But I see you non-derangement still keeps you from playing the "shoe" game...Go ahead and tell us how level-headed and understanding you would be if OB was trying to take over a clear hrc delegate and popular vote win...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>naz-</p>
<p>thanks for your concern but take a moment to reflect on your own actions before throwing at glass houses&#8230;</p>
<p>I read the links.  No one can rationally deny this whole thing is smelly and will somewhat stick to hrc.  </p>
<p>But I see you non-derangement still keeps you from playing the &#8220;shoe&#8221; game&#8230;Go ahead and tell us how level-headed and understanding you would be if OB was trying to take over a clear hrc delegate and popular vote win&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: lambert strether</title>
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		<dc:creator>lambert strether</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 May 2008 05:17:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And the beauty part is that, as &lt;a href="http://www.openleft.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=5489" rel="nofollow"&gt;Chris Bowers&lt;/a&gt; points out, the WWWV is registering a slightly pro-Obama demographic. But now that they aren't interacting with anybody but themselves, the OFB is so out of control, and so conspiracy-minded, that they had to go after WWWV anyhow. What a shame. I blame Clintonian Mind Control&#8482; And I'm 1000% totally positive that the whole sorry episode had nothing to do with WWWV registering &lt;i&gt;women&lt;/i&gt;. No, seriously, why would anyone imagine that's an issue with these guys?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And the beauty part is that, as <a href="http://www.openleft.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=5489" rel="nofollow">Chris Bowers</a> points out, the WWWV is registering a slightly pro-Obama demographic. But now that they aren&#8217;t interacting with anybody but themselves, the OFB is so out of control, and so conspiracy-minded, that they had to go after WWWV anyhow. What a shame. I blame Clintonian Mind Control&trade; And I&#8217;m 1000% totally positive that the whole sorry episode had nothing to do with WWWV registering <i>women</i>. No, seriously, why would anyone imagine that&#8217;s an issue with these guys?</p>
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		<title>By: mbw</title>
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		<dc:creator>mbw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 May 2008 04:52:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gee, I worked for Bill Clinton in 1992, so clearly, I must be some kind of Clinton mole.  Other than I'm voting for Gore come November if either of these two win the nom (I live in a blue district, so forget the guilt trip.)  Oh yeah, Rob Reich worked for him too.  And a whole bunch of Obama supporters did too.

WVWV is an amazing group which has targeted the group most likely to vote Democratic - single women age 18 - 35, and yet with the lowest voter registration numbers.    They've done heroic things.  Frankly, if I wasn't already so disgusted by the tactics of some Obama supporters, this would be the icing on the cake.  Smearing decent people for what?  It's pathetic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gee, I worked for Bill Clinton in 1992, so clearly, I must be some kind of Clinton mole.  Other than I&#8217;m voting for Gore come November if either of these two win the nom (I live in a blue district, so forget the guilt trip.)  Oh yeah, Rob Reich worked for him too.  And a whole bunch of Obama supporters did too.</p>
<p>WVWV is an amazing group which has targeted the group most likely to vote Democratic - single women age 18 - 35, and yet with the lowest voter registration numbers.    They&#8217;ve done heroic things.  Frankly, if I wasn&#8217;t already so disgusted by the tactics of some Obama supporters, this would be the icing on the cake.  Smearing decent people for what?  It&#8217;s pathetic.</p>
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		<title>By: white_n_az</title>
		<link>http://susiemadrak.com/2008/04/30/21/39/just-plain-stupid/#comment-142203</link>
		<dc:creator>white_n_az</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 May 2008 04:22:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joe - you are seriously deranged and need some help...seriously

Had you bothered to follow the links through, you would have found that there are Obama supporters on the board of WVWV.

I guess little things like reality get in the way of your full blown CDS</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joe - you are seriously deranged and need some help&#8230;seriously</p>
<p>Had you bothered to follow the links through, you would have found that there are Obama supporters on the board of WVWV.</p>
<p>I guess little things like reality get in the way of your full blown CDS</p>
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		<title>By: Ron</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 May 2008 04:06:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whatever you think of hrc, she is defintiely not as incompetent as these folks seem to be.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whatever you think of hrc, she is defintiely not as incompetent as these folks seem to be.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe</title>
		<link>http://susiemadrak.com/2008/04/30/21/39/just-plain-stupid/#comment-142200</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 May 2008 03:39:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>here are the clinton connections...

""Women's Voices Executive Director Joe Goode worked for Bill Clinton's election campaign in 1992 as a pollster; the group's website says he was intimately involved in "development and implementation of all polling and focus groups done for the presidential primary and general election campaigns" for Clinton.

Women's Voices board member John Podesta, former Chief of Staff for President Bill Clinton, donated $2,300 to Hillary Clinton on April 19, 2007, according to OpenSecrets.org. Podesta also donated $1,000 to Barack Obama in July 2004, but that was well before Obama announced his candidacy for president.""

does this mean hrc is tied to WVWV??  NO...but it just doesn't pass the smell test either...Plus Maggie Williams was on the WVWV leadership board up to a year ago...again, no smoking gun by any stretch but smelly anyway you look at it...

Some "hrc nuts" would be screaming just like some "obama nuts" have done today.  Politics right??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>here are the clinton connections&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8221;Women&#8217;s Voices Executive Director Joe Goode worked for Bill Clinton&#8217;s election campaign in 1992 as a pollster; the group&#8217;s website says he was intimately involved in &#8220;development and implementation of all polling and focus groups done for the presidential primary and general election campaigns&#8221; for Clinton.</p>
<p>Women&#8217;s Voices board member John Podesta, former Chief of Staff for President Bill Clinton, donated $2,300 to Hillary Clinton on April 19, 2007, according to OpenSecrets.org. Podesta also donated $1,000 to Barack Obama in July 2004, but that was well before Obama announced his candidacy for president.&#8221;"</p>
<p>does this mean hrc is tied to WVWV??  NO&#8230;but it just doesn&#8217;t pass the smell test either&#8230;Plus Maggie Williams was on the WVWV leadership board up to a year ago&#8230;again, no smoking gun by any stretch but smelly anyway you look at it&#8230;</p>
<p>Some &#8220;hrc nuts&#8221; would be screaming just like some &#8220;obama nuts&#8221; have done today.  Politics right??</p>
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		<title>By: Joe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 May 2008 03:22:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>of course it is not a front for hrc but some people connected to her currently or in her past also are connected to WVWV.  This cannot be denied...

If this was "shoe on other foot" and OB was somehow linked to knowing people connected to a group accused of doing somewhat smelly things I think we can all imagine what will be going on...

but, no one like to play "shoe on other foot" game...you know when we pretend OB is mathmatically eliminated from catching hrc and his only hope really is to convince superd's to vote against their state primary and caucus results and OB is throwing the sink at hrc only to "fully vet" her for the GOP onslaught and propping up the GOP cnadidate...you know?  That game...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>of course it is not a front for hrc but some people connected to her currently or in her past also are connected to WVWV.  This cannot be denied&#8230;</p>
<p>If this was &#8220;shoe on other foot&#8221; and OB was somehow linked to knowing people connected to a group accused of doing somewhat smelly things I think we can all imagine what will be going on&#8230;</p>
<p>but, no one like to play &#8220;shoe on other foot&#8221; game&#8230;you know when we pretend OB is mathmatically eliminated from catching hrc and his only hope really is to convince superd&#8217;s to vote against their state primary and caucus results and OB is throwing the sink at hrc only to &#8220;fully vet&#8221; her for the GOP onslaught and propping up the GOP cnadidate&#8230;you know?  That game&#8230;</p>
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