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May 8th, 2008 at 7:47 pm by Susie

I read today that Obama plans to declare himself the nominee on May 20th.

Why doesn’t he declare himself the King of Spain, while he’s at it?

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on 08 May 2008 at 8:27 pm1Joe

So…? me thinks maybe if he act she’s no longer a threat (reality), she (and you) will see she is merely now a nuisanse (again: reality)…

didn’t hrc declare herself the inevitable nominee in Dec 2006?

OB hit McCrazy-pants hard today and the media is paying attention…maybe this site will?? you know…support the Dem nominee? work for a Nov GE victory? I know you would expect of me and the rest of us trouble-makes if the roles were reversed…uh oh! I brought up the shoe on other foot game no one likes to play…just think for a moment if today was national reverse day and OB came out and said hrc won’t pull the hard working black vote?? my goodness can you imagine the purple-ness of his-majesty’s face??
on 08 May 2008 at 8:35 pm2MrSnrub

Hillary Clinton is the psycho-ex-girlfriend of the Democratic party. She’s approaching stalker status.

Susie, please show me a realistic scenario by which Hillary wins the nomination.
on 08 May 2008 at 8:49 pm3DrexelDem

…and MrSnrub wins the most tasteless and offbase analogy award!

Chris, I don’t want to inflame my acute moronitis, but your spam filter sucks. Everytime I comment I get an error, and a comment I left more than half an hour ago here still says “Awaiting moderation.” Any plans to turn down the suck?
on 08 May 2008 at 9:10 pm4memyself

Well it’s no less presumptuous than Hillary’s declaration that the the DNC rules don’t get to say how many delegates it takes to win the nomination. She announced her own number and keeps telling anyone who will listen that it is the “real” one.

So maybe Obama gets to pick his own number since Hillary picked one for herself. Seems fair to me.
on 08 May 2008 at 9:41 pm5snuzy mandrake

he’s not going to “declare himself the nominee”, he’s going to appeal to the uncommitted superdelegates, pointing out that he will have clinched a majority in both pledged delegates and votes and that there’s no metric left by which to decide to commit to clinton.

as zuzu likes to point out, the supers can support whoever they want for whatever reason they want. but a corrolary to that is that the candidates will try to appeal to the supers for their commitment, pointing to whatever criteria they think favors them. by may 20th there won’t be any metrics left that favor clinton, so why not tell the supers that he has it in the bag so they should commit to him. if they weren’t waiting to see how the pledged delegates and popular vote turned out most of them would have committed by now.

there’s nothing sinister about obama’s may 20th ploy, it’s just part of the pitch to the supers.
on 08 May 2008 at 9:51 pm6memyself

Heh

http://www.time.com/time/covers/0,16641,20080519,00.html
on 08 May 2008 at 9:58 pm7Snarki, child of Loki

No, Obama isn’t going to declare himself King of Spain! That’s crazy talk!. There already is a King of Spain, it’s whatsisface, Juan Carlos?

BUT, I think the King of Two Sicilies job is vacant. Whatever the hell that is. I think you have to be in southern Italy, and so drunk that you’re seeing double, but when it comes to grabbable titles of royalty, you can’t be too picky.
on 08 May 2008 at 10:05 pm8white_n_az

memyself…
Time

By the way…2025 isn’t the number once FL and MI delegates are accepted which appears to be what is going to happen. Obama risks looking like a fool if he actually tries to declare himself on May 20.
on 08 May 2008 at 10:27 pm9Joe

Naz: do you actually think OB will allow MI or FL to be seated if it hurt his chances or made him look foolish? Looking foolish is reserved for those that supported the DNC decision and now wants to say OB is disenfranchising them…what do we call that??? Flop-flip, floppity flippy, flipp-offity floppish…? oh, you know what I mean!
on 08 May 2008 at 10:38 pm10memyself

Uh huh - white_n_az, if you buy the hilarious McSame team spin that the term “losing his bearings” is a reference to age then you have clearly lost your bearings. The term is a very good description of McCain’s sudden jerky turn away from the course he claimed his campaign would take and it fits extremely well with the point Obama was making.

2025 is the number until and unless the DNC officially changes it. The earliest that can happen is May 31st. If Obama achieves 2025 anytime before that he would be making a huge strategic error to NOT declare that he has won. Based on team Obama’s enormous outmanuvering of team Clinton on all things strategy, I don’t expect that.

If Obama achieves the current defined and agreed upon winning margin and makes sure it hits the news with real force the DNC will be even more disinclined than they are now to take any action that reverses a win that has already been achieved by the rules everyone agreed upon. FL and MI would then be seated, but not in a way that will change the outcome.
on 09 May 2008 at 12:26 am11lambert strether

I like the idea of Obama declaring himself the King of the Two Sicilies.

Of course, Hillary’s Queen of the Three Sicilies, but I’m sure she’ll give one to Obama…
on 09 May 2008 at 12:35 am12sister of ye

Maybe Obama should declare himself Marie of Romania.
on 09 May 2008 at 3:02 am13Nancy

hehehe. thanks for this post, susie. i gave away my TV a long time ago, but i’ve recently noticed kaiser permanente commercials popping up frequently on the radio. now i wonder why that’s happening at the same time that our corrupt-ass media is declaring hillary out of the race. HMMMMM… yeah, i wonder.
on 09 May 2008 at 7:31 am14lbd

It’s like a rerun of Bush/Gore 2000. Bush started appointing Cabinet members long before the Supreme Court crowned him.
on 09 May 2008 at 11:54 am15madmatt

As a voter from Michigan, I object to Hillary getting any votes by scamming the system…she was the only big name on the ticket, the rest had pulled their names as the party suggested even then she only got to 60% as the default name. She now thinks that switching rules she had agreed to is ok…maybe she should just run as a rethug…she has certainly taken on their campaign strategies!!
on 09 May 2008 at 12:26 pm16zuzu

by may 20th there won’t be any metrics left that favor clinton

May 31 is after May 20.

the rest had pulled their names as the party suggested

Oh, that’s a new variation. Please provide a cite for the party suggesting such a thing.
on 09 May 2008 at 4:11 pm17snuzy mandrake

May 31 is after May 20.

by may 20th obama’s lead in delegates is expected to be so wide, even if the FL and MI delegates get seated, he’ll still win. obama is about 170 delegates ahead right now. if you count FL delegates and MI, and even if you give obama no delegates from MI because his name was not on the ballot, that only gives clinton a total gain of 114. (clinton would get 113 for FL and 73 for MI whereas obama would get 72 from FL and 0 from MI), even doing it that way, obama will be ahead and his lead is unlikely to change.

that’s the most optimistic outcome of the may 31st rules committee meeting from the clinton perspective. it’s also quite possible that the committee would credit obama with the “uncommitted” MI vote (which would give obama 55 more delegates and reduce clinton’s net to 58), or penalize the two states by half (which would reduce clinton’s net gain to 57), or both (which would reduce clinton’s net to 29.5).

but even under the most optimistic outcome of the may 31st meeting, clinton won’t get enough delegates to bridge the gap. the remaining states don’t have enough delegates at stake and the proportionate allocation of delegates make it almost mathematically impossible for clinton to get very many even if she wins by a big % margin of the vote. for example, clinton’s “big win” in PA only netted her 12 delegates. and that was PA, with 158 pledged delegates. the six remaining states combined only add up to 274, plus clinton is only prejected to win three of them. but let’s say she wins all of them with the same proportionate deleagate award as PA. that would give her about a 20 delegates. add that to the 114 delegates she would get from the most pro-clinton result of the rules committee and she still hasn’t bridged obama’s 170 delegate lead.

no matter how you slice it, even if MI and FL are seated under the scenario most favorable to clinton, the numbers simply don’t work. by may 20th, obama probably will have enough to win under every plausible scenario.

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