Perspective
May 15th, 2008 at 10:51 am by Susie
Stoller thinks I misinterpreted his post. I don’t think so - the part I wrote about was that he seemed at all optimistic that blogs would play any part in influencing an Obama administration toward progressive goals. I mean, when someone isn’t even the nominee yet and he’s working hard to cut out any threats to his own influence, I’d say you’d have to be in a very happy shiny place to think so.
Go read it and judge for yourself.



Stoller also misattributed a post I wrote to Donna Darko when he quotes me in that post. I sent him an email but he hasn’t bothered to correct it.
So much for accuracy in reporting and analysis.
I don’t think so - the part I wrote about was that he seemed at all optimistic that blogs would play any part in influencing an Obama administration toward progressive goals.
I have written repeatedly that blogs are irrelevant to Obama and that we have lost tremendous amounts of influence. Repeatedly.
Redstar, apologies, I put up the correction. It took m a few days.
Matt, I missed those previous posts. My apologies. Too many blogs, too few hours in the day.
I guess my next question is, do you think progressives should quietly acquiesce to his plan?
I got a link … I guess I should totally lose my temper more often. Yeah, like that never happens now. Then again, anyone who isn’t outraged isn’t paying attention.
Personally, if it were my campaign I wouldn’t want anyone who had anything to do with the Clintons having any power at all over messaging. Who knows what their goals will really be once they understand they’ve lost the nomination this time.
I’m also not worried about lessening the number of ads put up by outside groups. They are often terrible — horribly negative and unprofessional to boot.
I think it’s clear that Obama thinks the only way he can overcome the GOP hate machine is to rise above it and shame it if it acts up. Going head to head with the hate mongers hasn’t really helped in the past, at least at the presidential level, has it?
I also have a strong belief that if Obama runs off the track as president, there will be really loud and widespread criticism that kick in so such an extent that he won’t be able to ignore it. Remember how many millions of people will be invested financially and emotionally in his campaign by the time he gets to the White House. They won’t keep quiet, will they?
Unlike the millions of donors who are invested in Sen. Clinton’s campaign…
“Remember how many millions of people will be invested financially and emotionally in his campaign by the time he gets to the White House. They won’t keep quiet, will they?”
Who cares? If they aren’t allowed to talk now, why should we assume they will be allowed to talk later?
WHAT ARE YOU FORGETTING ABOUT THE WORD “DEMOCRATIC”?
And yeah, I think shouting is important.
To some degree, this was sort of the promise of the dude. He exists mostly outside the national organizations, and as he sets up his own, he’s inevitably going to kick some of the dipshits we know and loath to the curb. As an Obama supporter, that had some appeal to me, although my issue in this primary wasn’t this. The problem, inevitably, is that he brings his own dipshits with him, and I’m fairly certain that I’ll have a high degree of hate for them by the time this is all over. That’s assuming he wins in November, which isn’t a given.
k: Who’s “not allowed to talk now”?
And Redstar, not getting what you have in mind for meaning with your comment. I was talking about the probability that the more people are invested in a campaign, the more they will probably track what happens if the candidate is elected.