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	<title>Comments on: The Sound of Silence</title>
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	<description>Keeping a jaundiced eye on the corporate media.</description>
	<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 14:07:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: memyself</title>
		<link>http://susiemadrak.com/2008/05/15/18/52/the-sound-of-silence/#comment-143567</link>
		<dc:creator>memyself</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 May 2008 02:34:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So Zon, if Obama answered no several times then said "as far as I know Hillary is not a lesbian" you'd be perfectly OK with that?

Yeah - right.  The man can't use normal words that are the best choice to fit the meaning of his sentences without folks jumping all over them and calling him sexist. What a crock.

This post is about Obama's (and others) failure to ride to the defense of Hillary.   It is quite reasonable to question why he should do this when she has not ridden to his defense over similarly offensive stuff and in fact has in some instances piled on herself.  The premise that Hillary needs defending is itself sexist unless it is accompanied by an equal call for HER to come to his defense as well.  Or do we only think women need to be defended by men?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So Zon, if Obama answered no several times then said &#8220;as far as I know Hillary is not a lesbian&#8221; you&#8217;d be perfectly OK with that?</p>
<p>Yeah - right.  The man can&#8217;t use normal words that are the best choice to fit the meaning of his sentences without folks jumping all over them and calling him sexist. What a crock.</p>
<p>This post is about Obama&#8217;s (and others) failure to ride to the defense of Hillary.   It is quite reasonable to question why he should do this when she has not ridden to his defense over similarly offensive stuff and in fact has in some instances piled on herself.  The premise that Hillary needs defending is itself sexist unless it is accompanied by an equal call for HER to come to his defense as well.  Or do we only think women need to be defended by men?</p>
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		<title>By: Zon</title>
		<link>http://susiemadrak.com/2008/05/15/18/52/the-sound-of-silence/#comment-143542</link>
		<dc:creator>Zon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 18:05:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sam, there's no need to perpetuate that "as far as I know" meme.  Clinton clearly said that Obama was not a Muslim several times on the 60 Minutes segment as Steve Kroft kept pressing her again and again on it.  Of course, what gets extracted and bounced all around the blogosphere is the "as far as I know" phrase, totally out of context.  This is just one example of the total ludicrousness that counts for discourse these days.

I'm also getting tired of defenses of sexism that basically amount to "well, yeah, but Hillary [or some surrogate] said something worse."  I thought all of us learned in kindergarten that two wrongs don't make a right.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sam, there&#8217;s no need to perpetuate that &#8220;as far as I know&#8221; meme.  Clinton clearly said that Obama was not a Muslim several times on the 60 Minutes segment as Steve Kroft kept pressing her again and again on it.  Of course, what gets extracted and bounced all around the blogosphere is the &#8220;as far as I know&#8221; phrase, totally out of context.  This is just one example of the total ludicrousness that counts for discourse these days.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m also getting tired of defenses of sexism that basically amount to &#8220;well, yeah, but Hillary [or some surrogate] said something worse.&#8221;  I thought all of us learned in kindergarten that two wrongs don&#8217;t make a right.</p>
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		<title>By: sam</title>
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		<dc:creator>sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 14:19:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If Obama had ever answered a question about rumors that Hillary Clinton is a lesbian that have been propagated by the far right for years with a qualifier of "as far as I know" then I guess I would really have a problem with his silence on this issue too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Obama had ever answered a question about rumors that Hillary Clinton is a lesbian that have been propagated by the far right for years with a qualifier of &#8220;as far as I know&#8221; then I guess I would really have a problem with his silence on this issue too.</p>
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		<title>By: joe</title>
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		<dc:creator>joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 05:48:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>it seems some find misogony and sexism everywhere...even where it really doesn't exist or at the level claimed... or is it just the fact the candidate who beat hrc is a man - so the only excuse is sexism?  is OB a sexist for the mere reason he won?  I read and tried to accept hrc and OB tactics as politics - but then when I think I get it -- "hey it's just politics", others start to blather on about racism or sexism.  I realize some things were obv race-based and some were mildly sexist (i guess) - but to just swipe broadly and say sexism was so widespread and rampant... help me understand.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>it seems some find misogony and sexism everywhere&#8230;even where it really doesn&#8217;t exist or at the level claimed&#8230; or is it just the fact the candidate who beat hrc is a man - so the only excuse is sexism?  is OB a sexist for the mere reason he won?  I read and tried to accept hrc and OB tactics as politics - but then when I think I get it &#8212; &#8220;hey it&#8217;s just politics&#8221;, others start to blather on about racism or sexism.  I realize some things were obv race-based and some were mildly sexist (i guess) - but to just swipe broadly and say sexism was so widespread and rampant&#8230; help me understand.</p>
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		<title>By: Macjazz</title>
		<link>http://susiemadrak.com/2008/05/15/18/52/the-sound-of-silence/#comment-143487</link>
		<dc:creator>Macjazz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 02:58:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ken Rudin and Andrew Sullivan, Chris Matthews, Mike Barnicle, Jack Cafferty, and of course William Kristol no less!  A confederacy of media dunces if ever there was one!   They're assholes and idiots ... but then, they always have been.  

And of course potty mouth Randi Rhodes, who got her ass fired behind her comments. 

I don't know why we'd expect Howard Dean to jump into that cesspool - I don't recall him weighing in on racism issues either, for that matter,  though maybe I just missed it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ken Rudin and Andrew Sullivan, Chris Matthews, Mike Barnicle, Jack Cafferty, and of course William Kristol no less!  A confederacy of media dunces if ever there was one!   They&#8217;re assholes and idiots &#8230; but then, they always have been.  </p>
<p>And of course potty mouth Randi Rhodes, who got her ass fired behind her comments. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know why we&#8217;d expect Howard Dean to jump into that cesspool - I don&#8217;t recall him weighing in on racism issues either, for that matter,  though maybe I just missed it.</p>
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		<title>By: James Guglielmino</title>
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		<dc:creator>James Guglielmino</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 02:18:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'd say she has been giving as good as she has been getting..No, actually NOT. She has given BETTER than she has been getting....Now, let's see what kind of Democrat she really is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d say she has been giving as good as she has been getting..No, actually NOT. She has given BETTER than she has been getting&#8230;.Now, let&#8217;s see what kind of Democrat she really is.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 01:24:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now that's the cynicism I know and love.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now that&#8217;s the cynicism I know and love.</p>
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