Comments on: How Delightful http://susiemadrak.com/2008/07/15/21/55/how-delightful/ Keeping a jaundiced eye on the corporate media. Mon, 01 Dec 2008 22:37:20 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6 By: Mike http://susiemadrak.com/2008/07/15/21/55/how-delightful/#comment-147147 Mike Sat, 19 Jul 2008 13:02:13 +0000 http://susiemadrak.com/?p=25749#comment-147147 Let’s be clear on one thing. There is no such thing as a “tax cheat”. “Cheating” on your taxes is the moral equivalent of telling a mugger you have no more money than what’s in your wallet when you’ve got a wad of currency crammed between your ass cheeks. <a href="http://www.nostate.com/203/stealing-for-thieves/" rel="nofollow">Stealing for thieves</a> Let’s be clear on one thing. There is no such thing as a “tax cheat”.

“Cheating” on your taxes is the moral equivalent of telling a mugger you have no more money than what’s in your wallet when you’ve got a wad of currency crammed between your ass cheeks.

Stealing for thieves

]]> By: Urban Sombrero http://susiemadrak.com/2008/07/15/21/55/how-delightful/#comment-147050 Urban Sombrero Wed, 16 Jul 2008 23:39:42 +0000 http://susiemadrak.com/?p=25749#comment-147050 I read that the list of names was published in Italy. Don't know if it's true. I'm too lazy to look for it. I read that the list of names was published in Italy. Don’t know if it’s true. I’m too lazy to look for it.

]]> By: pdq http://susiemadrak.com/2008/07/15/21/55/how-delightful/#comment-147047 pdq Wed, 16 Jul 2008 17:08:29 +0000 http://susiemadrak.com/?p=25749#comment-147047 Here's another related bit of news. Multimillionaire (whose son writes "Vox Day" columns at WorldNetDaily) decides he doesn't have to pay taxes. Goes on lam, found in Florida, extradited to MN. Launches plan from jail to have fellow nutjobs "arrest" judge _in court_ at trial. None of his buddies show up, is convicted. Now he and buddies in trouble for "conspiring to threaten and intimidate a federal judge": http://www.twincities.com/ci_9892798 The guy's a multi-millionaire. Wouldn't it be easier to just pay your taxes? Here’s another related bit of news. Multimillionaire (whose son writes “Vox Day” columns at WorldNetDaily) decides he doesn’t have to pay taxes. Goes on lam, found in Florida, extradited to MN. Launches plan from jail to have fellow nutjobs “arrest” judge _in court_ at trial. None of his buddies show up, is convicted. Now he and buddies in trouble for “conspiring to threaten and intimidate a federal judge”:

http://www.twincities.com/ci_9892798

The guy’s a multi-millionaire. Wouldn’t it be easier to just pay your taxes?

]]> By: Vince http://susiemadrak.com/2008/07/15/21/55/how-delightful/#comment-147046 Vince Wed, 16 Jul 2008 17:07:35 +0000 http://susiemadrak.com/?p=25749#comment-147046 This list will become public about the fifth of never. This will be the rationale: Privacy, tax information, unproven, illegally gathered. Vince This list will become public about the fifth of never. This will be the rationale: Privacy, tax information, unproven, illegally gathered.

Vince

]]> By: Parrotlover77 http://susiemadrak.com/2008/07/15/21/55/how-delightful/#comment-147045 Parrotlover77 Wed, 16 Jul 2008 16:20:20 +0000 http://susiemadrak.com/?p=25749#comment-147045 IntelVet - There are gray areas and then there are "gray areas." Storing money in an offshore bank account and not telling the IRS about it isn't exactly what I would call a gray area. Arguing the ambiguities of the instructions for a paticular complicated set of forms, but hiding NOTHING in the supporting documentation, is what I would call a real, forgivable, gray area. IntelVet - There are gray areas and then there are “gray areas.” Storing money in an offshore bank account and not telling the IRS about it isn’t exactly what I would call a gray area. Arguing the ambiguities of the instructions for a paticular complicated set of forms, but hiding NOTHING in the supporting documentation, is what I would call a real, forgivable, gray area.

]]> By: Phalamir http://susiemadrak.com/2008/07/15/21/55/how-delightful/#comment-147044 Phalamir Wed, 16 Jul 2008 16:07:30 +0000 http://susiemadrak.com/?p=25749#comment-147044 When I read this: "Hundreds of super-rich American tax cheats have, in effect, turned themselves in to the IRS", I have to admit I interpretted it as they had transformed into the IRS - figured GWB decided wealth transfer wasn't going fast enough and had simply decided I would pay my taxes directly to Jenna When I read this: “Hundreds of super-rich American tax cheats have, in effect, turned themselves in to the IRS”, I have to admit I interpretted it as they had transformed into the IRS - figured GWB decided wealth transfer wasn’t going fast enough and had simply decided I would pay my taxes directly to Jenna

]]> By: IntelVet http://susiemadrak.com/2008/07/15/21/55/how-delightful/#comment-147037 IntelVet Wed, 16 Jul 2008 14:56:05 +0000 http://susiemadrak.com/?p=25749#comment-147037 michael, I am not certain what you mean by "cheating". Were the tax code simple and not have so many grey areas, I might agree with you, but when top accountants disagree how to apply the code in certain areas, then you would be paying too much if you did not try to take advantage of every "loop hole". If an audit demanded the presence of the taxpayer, I believe there would be a lot less playing of the grey area. michael,

I am not certain what you mean by “cheating”. Were the tax code simple and not have so many grey areas, I might agree with you, but when top accountants disagree how to apply the code in certain areas, then you would be paying too much if you did not try to take advantage of every “loop hole”.

If an audit demanded the presence of the taxpayer, I believe there would be a lot less playing of the grey area.

]]> By: James http://susiemadrak.com/2008/07/15/21/55/how-delightful/#comment-147036 James Wed, 16 Jul 2008 14:48:15 +0000 http://susiemadrak.com/?p=25749#comment-147036 Steve: "Unless there are names of prominent Democrats on there, we’ll probably never hear the names." But if there are names of prominent Democrats on there, we'll never hear the names either. If there is one thing we've learned since Nov 2006 it's that the Democrats have a keen interest in protecting their own even if it means papering over some of the most serious crimes committed over the course of the last... however many years. If there's a D on the list, it'll never make it out of Waxman's office. Steve:
“Unless there are names of prominent Democrats on there, we’ll probably never hear the names.”

But if there are names of prominent Democrats on there, we’ll never hear the names either. If there is one thing we’ve learned since Nov 2006 it’s that the Democrats have a keen interest in protecting their own even if it means papering over some of the most serious crimes committed over the course of the last… however many years. If there’s a D on the list, it’ll never make it out of Waxman’s office.

]]> By: michael http://susiemadrak.com/2008/07/15/21/55/how-delightful/#comment-147033 michael Wed, 16 Jul 2008 14:30:39 +0000 http://susiemadrak.com/?p=25749#comment-147033 The easiest way to close the deficit, is give the IRS more money for enforcement. The "tax gap", taxes owed but not paid (Cheating), is around $300 billion. Huge amounts of it could be recovered with modest investment. I wonder why nobody in congress does anything about that. (sarcasm) The easiest way to close the deficit, is give the IRS more money for enforcement. The “tax gap”, taxes owed but not paid (Cheating), is around $300 billion. Huge amounts of it could be recovered with modest investment.

I wonder why nobody in congress does anything about that. (sarcasm)

]]> By: Snarki, child of Loki http://susiemadrak.com/2008/07/15/21/55/how-delightful/#comment-147032 Snarki, child of Loki Wed, 16 Jul 2008 14:15:12 +0000 http://susiemadrak.com/?p=25749#comment-147032 Isn't there money to be made in ratting out tax cheats to the IRS? If so, I expect GOPers to be barging in the line to rat out their fellows, party unity be damned. Popcorn, anyone? Isn’t there money to be made in ratting out tax cheats to the IRS?

If so, I expect GOPers to be barging in the line to rat out their fellows, party unity be damned.

Popcorn, anyone?

]]> By: steve terranova http://susiemadrak.com/2008/07/15/21/55/how-delightful/#comment-147031 steve terranova Wed, 16 Jul 2008 14:08:55 +0000 http://susiemadrak.com/?p=25749#comment-147031 Sputnik, Unless there are names of prominent Democrats on there, we'll probably never hear the names. In any case, none of these people will do any time. Sputnik,
Unless there are names of prominent Democrats on there, we’ll probably never hear the names. In any case, none of these people will do any time.

]]> By: Eli Rabett` http://susiemadrak.com/2008/07/15/21/55/how-delightful/#comment-147030 Eli Rabett` Wed, 16 Jul 2008 13:08:12 +0000 http://susiemadrak.com/?p=25749#comment-147030 This is a by blow of <a href="http://www.michaeldavidthomas.com/dailycaveat/2008/02/codename-henry-heinrich-kieber-german.html" rel="nofollow"> Kieber's giving the list to the German tax authorities</a>. <blockquote>"The German secret service reportedly spent millions of Euros to purchase four DVDs worth of LGT banking records from Kieber. The files revealed all manner of funds scurried away in Liechtenstein's secretive banks not just by 600 German citizens, but also 800 more from Great Britain, Canada, France, Spain, Italy, Denmark, Finland, Sweden, the U.S. and Australia."</blockquote> This is a by blow of Kieber’s giving the list to the German tax authorities.

“The German secret service reportedly spent millions of Euros to purchase four DVDs worth of LGT banking records from Kieber. The files revealed all manner of funds scurried away in Liechtenstein’s secretive banks not just by 600 German citizens, but also 800 more from Great Britain, Canada, France, Spain, Italy, Denmark, Finland, Sweden, the U.S. and Australia.”

]]> By: sputnik http://susiemadrak.com/2008/07/15/21/55/how-delightful/#comment-147029 sputnik Wed, 16 Jul 2008 12:51:15 +0000 http://susiemadrak.com/?p=25749#comment-147029 When will we hear the names of these wonderful people? Personally, I can't wait. When will we hear the names of these wonderful people? Personally, I can’t wait.

]]> By: dweb http://susiemadrak.com/2008/07/15/21/55/how-delightful/#comment-147027 dweb Wed, 16 Jul 2008 12:30:37 +0000 http://susiemadrak.com/?p=25749#comment-147027 Add this to the recent embarassing leak of a memo from UBS (Hi Sen. Gramm) to its wealthiest US customers, advising them how to hide assets from the IRS by parking them in offshore accounts. Reportedly costing US taxpayers about 70 billion per year. As Leona says....only the little people pay taxes. I would prosecute these folks criminally, or at least ask for triple penalties. Add this to the recent embarassing leak of a memo from UBS (Hi Sen. Gramm) to its wealthiest US customers, advising them how to hide assets from the IRS by parking them in offshore accounts.

Reportedly costing US taxpayers about 70 billion per year. As Leona says….only the little people pay taxes. I would prosecute these folks criminally, or at least ask for triple penalties.

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