8 thoughts on “Screwed

  1. That’s because it’s “health INSURANCE reform,” designed by Obama and Baucus to protect the protifability and viability of the large private health insurance companies. If some kind of health insurance reform, especially one requiring mandated purchase of the BHIPs’ products, had not been passed, more and more and more Americans would be unable to afford any kind of insurance and single payer would have been the default and only logical means of providing health care. BHIPs had to avoid that at almost any cost.

    Obama was brought to office to protect Big Bidness, most especially Big Banksters (Wall Street didn’t fund his very early campaign for nothing; best investment they’ve made in decades) and Big Health Industry Players (insurers had to have mandates, Obama provided those for them, albeit he campaigned for president against them!).

    The tweaks doing anything positive for us the people are there to make the increasing transfer of wealth from us the people to the BHIPs palatable to enough voters and, well, passable in the US Congress.

    We’ve been had.

    And, again: This was not health CARE reform, it was not intended as health CARE reform; it was intended as the BHIP-PPP — Big Health Industry Players Profit Protection Plan.

    Or, as, iiic, Ian Welsh put it, HCR = High Corporate Revenues.

  2. Well, apologies for not proofreading thoroughly enough (I’m one of those who needs and loves Preview, but most especially Edit!) — this was not supposed to be all bolded. And the underlining tag didn’t work.

    Apologies to readers’ eyes and sensibilities!

  3. No problem about the bold Jawbone. At LEAST yoU Didn’T dO THIs. Anyway, your critique of Obama is very accurate. He is another in yet a long line of puppets for the business class — or as radical pseudo-intellectuals such as myself call it: Imperialist Hegemony.

    It would be nice if Democrats could see through the rhetoric, stop screaming at right-wing idiots in defense of Obama and realize who the real enemies are. Just my take.

    -Todd

  4. Hey Jawbone and Tod Curl;

    None of us particularly like the Obama presidency—at this point—on the whole. And I’m the first to say he’s been a total asshole if we look at a couple of vital progresive issues that effect us all. However, in his defense—-and keep in mind that as an AA voter I can lovingly call him a lowdown black motherfucking lying asshole on important issues—-I’ll still stand with him as a progressive because there’s no other politician in the arena (Teddy’s gone) who has an inkling of where we need to be going as a country. Nope, I’m not at ALL happy with Obama—and, yes, I’m staying home in ’10 because the Thugs will regain control of the Congress anyway so Mr. O will have lots of company to continue to do what he’s already doing. So there, yep, we’re right back where we started from! OY!!!

  5. Obama was funded to make sure that Hillary, who was going to reform health care and has a long history of providing lower income families with cheaper care, didn’t win the nomination. James Roosevelt, the head of the Rules and Bylaws committee that docked Michigan and Florida half their delegates and handed four of the delegates that Hillary won in Michigan to Obama, is the CEO of Tufts Health Care and he got the exact health care plan that he publicly lobbied for. Surprise. Surprise. Surprise.

    Teddy’s gone but Hillary’s here and she is, and always has been, way to Obama’s left. She’s smarter than him by a country mile, has more integrity, and, unlike Obama, has a long history of actually getting stuff done for ordinary people. She’ll run in 12 and hopefully fix this mess.

    He is the worst Democratic president since Buchanan – stupid, uninformed, incompetent and thoroughly corrupt.

    I think the reform is designed to boot lower income people out of the system = sorta like auto insurance in California. They’ll pay a premium or two a year, but won’t be able to afford monthly bills or co-pays so they won’t have actually access to healthcare. The insurance industry will see them as pure profit.

  6. “and, yes, I’m staying home in ‘10 because the Thugs will regain control of the Congress anyway”

    Brilliant decision. You do realize that you and those that think like you will make it a fiat accompli by staying home don’t you? Do you often take your ball and go home when things don’t go your way? It appears that you’re applying the same “logic” here.

    Lori — “Obama was funded to make sure that Hillary, who was going to reform health care and has a long history of providing lower income families with cheaper care, didn’t win the nomination”

    Really? Hillary’s plan was dramatically different than that of Obama? She was going to bring her own Congress with her to pass it too right? More ridiculous fantasy.

    “Teddy’s gone but Hillary’s here and she is, and always has been, way to Obama’s left. She’s smarter than him by a country mile, has more integrity, and, unlike Obama, has a long history of actually getting stuff done for ordinary people. She’ll run in 12 and hopefully fix this mess.”

    What world to you live in anyway? I have to say that embittered Hillary supporters are the worst, always engaging in revisionist history and flights of utter fantasy. Hillary is NOT running in 2012 and your contention that she is to Obama’s left is laughable. She and Bill have always been centrists — third-way Democrats and Obama is a member of the club too.

  7. I’m fascinated by the whole “embittered Hillary supporters (dead-enders, etc.)” meme. There is simply no question that Hillary Clinton is more liberal than Obama.

    You’re assuming a woman is in ideological lockstep with her husband – and how often is that true? Read the Carl Bernstein biography of Clinton, you might learn something. She’s conservative on some issues (defense, etc.) and very liberal on most social issues. But she took public positions to support her husband on things where she didn’t agree – just as Laura Bush did.

    No, Hillary isn’t running. You did get that right.

    But she’s not a centrist. That was Bill’s schtick. I don’t think Bill was as naturally centrist as he had to be while president, because above all, he’s a survivor. He did what he thought he had to do to gain power, and then to retain it. With a halfway cooperative Republican party, I think his record would have looked much different.

  8. Given Hillary’s record in the Senate and her various positions on the issues, I’d say she is precisely a left-leaning centrist as opposed to Bill’s right-leaning centrist positions. Not exactly in ideological lock-step with Bill but quite close on many or most issues.

    As for the embittered comment, it’s a fine line between embittered and disillusioned and you and some of the commenters here certainly fall into that category. Po-ta-to, po-tah-to. It’s not so much a meme as it is a demonstrable fact. Many a commenter here has lamented the fate of HRC while simultaneously bashing Obama and rewriting history.

    You mentioned the uncooperative Congress that Bill had to deal with; it was certainly more cooperative than the current bunch of conserva-Dems and Republicans that Obama must deal with. Though I’m not happy with all that has been done or not done, I think he’s done a reasonable job given what he has to work with. The current crop of Republicans and DINOs are significantly to the right of the mid 90s Republicans for the most part.

    How many times are people (typically disillusioned, disappointed HRC supporters or so-called progressives) going to threaten to stay home in the ’10 elections anyway? How exactly is this helpful? I’d like to see you address that issue.

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