Can’t disagree with most of this, but externalizing blame is only part of the problem. Thomas Frank had a slightly different take:
“Put this question in slightly more general terms and you are confronting the single great mystery of 2016. The American white-collar class just spent the year rallying around a super-competent professional (who really wasn’t all that competent) and either insulting or silencing everyone who didn’t accept their assessment. And then they lost. Maybe it’s time to consider whether there’s something about shrill self-righteousness, shouted from a position of high social status, that turns people away.
The even larger problem is that there is a kind of chronic complacency that has been rotting American liberalism for years, a hubris that tells Democrats they need do nothing different, they need deliver nothing really to anyone – except their friends on the Google jet and those nice people at Goldman. The rest of us are treated as though we have nowhere else to go and no role to play except to vote enthusiastically on the grounds that these Democrats are the “last thing standing” between us and the end of the world. It is a liberalism of the rich, it has failed the middle class, and now it has failed on its own terms of electability. Enough with these comfortable Democrats and their cozy Washington system. Enough with Clintonism and its prideful air of professional-class virtue. Enough!”
You can blame Wikileaks for exposing the perfidy of the DNC, but you have to admit that DWS et al worked very hard in the primaries to disempower truly progressive candidates nationwide who were addressing the very issues that won the presidency for the orange satan.
Deplorables indeed.
Kurt Eichenwald is right, Bernie would have been crushed. I’ve seen all the oppo, too. Trump would have danced all over him.
Maybe so, but he consistently polled better than Hillary in head to head matchup with Trump. Not that the polls have distinguised themselves in this election, but still…
In the primaries. When no one had ever attacked him.
Folks, I think we’ve just seen a non-violent electoral coup.
The vote was hacked.
The perpetrators could have been Russia, or the interventionist FBI elements strongly opposed to Clinton/the Democrats, or professional right-wing ratfuckers such as Roger Stone, or some combination thereof.
Notice the disparities between the pollsters and the voting results.
Notice the disparities between the popular vote and the electoral college results.
Notice how the candidate with no ground game “beat” the one with a great ground game.
Yeah, I know that it’s bad form to speak of such things, but so be it.
It doesn’t add up.
Angry white men who hadn’t voted for a long time showed up at the polls. That’s why they didn’t show up in the polling data, they had no recent history. I’m as pissed as anyone else, but I don’t think that happened.
When trump said the election would be rigged most of us thought he was referring to Hillary’s efforts. I agree with Iz—————trump was referring to his OWN election!
“Angry white men who hadn’t voted for a long time showed up at the polls. That’s why they didn’t show up in the polling data, they had no recent history.”
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Is this based on data, or intuition?
The Publicans ALWAYS telegraph what they are going to do by first blaming the Dems for planning to do it; that way if they get caught they can always say it was pre-emptive or retaliatory.
Exit polls.
The exit polls show that 70% of voters rated the e-mail server as an issue that bothered them “a lot'” or “some”. We can blame Comey and probably should, but at some point the ethical question has to pivot to the Clintons. WTF, really. Because or Rove or Cheney did it?
What part don’t you understand about the media blowing this into a major scandal? When you see something mentioned EVERY DAY (600 days straight), you get the message that it must be serious.
That would pass quite nicely for the last press conference of Richard Milhouse Nixon.
Can’t disagree with most of this, but externalizing blame is only part of the problem. Thomas Frank had a slightly different take:
“Put this question in slightly more general terms and you are confronting the single great mystery of 2016. The American white-collar class just spent the year rallying around a super-competent professional (who really wasn’t all that competent) and either insulting or silencing everyone who didn’t accept their assessment. And then they lost. Maybe it’s time to consider whether there’s something about shrill self-righteousness, shouted from a position of high social status, that turns people away.
The even larger problem is that there is a kind of chronic complacency that has been rotting American liberalism for years, a hubris that tells Democrats they need do nothing different, they need deliver nothing really to anyone – except their friends on the Google jet and those nice people at Goldman. The rest of us are treated as though we have nowhere else to go and no role to play except to vote enthusiastically on the grounds that these Democrats are the “last thing standing” between us and the end of the world. It is a liberalism of the rich, it has failed the middle class, and now it has failed on its own terms of electability. Enough with these comfortable Democrats and their cozy Washington system. Enough with Clintonism and its prideful air of professional-class virtue. Enough!”
You can blame Wikileaks for exposing the perfidy of the DNC, but you have to admit that DWS et al worked very hard in the primaries to disempower truly progressive candidates nationwide who were addressing the very issues that won the presidency for the orange satan.
Deplorables indeed.
Kurt Eichenwald is right, Bernie would have been crushed. I’ve seen all the oppo, too. Trump would have danced all over him.
https://twitter.com/kurteichenwald/status/796264779136598016
Maybe so, but he consistently polled better than Hillary in head to head matchup with Trump. Not that the polls have distinguised themselves in this election, but still…
In the primaries. When no one had ever attacked him.
Folks, I think we’ve just seen a non-violent electoral coup.
The vote was hacked.
The perpetrators could have been Russia, or the interventionist FBI elements strongly opposed to Clinton/the Democrats, or professional right-wing ratfuckers such as Roger Stone, or some combination thereof.
Notice the disparities between the pollsters and the voting results.
Notice the disparities between the popular vote and the electoral college results.
Notice how the candidate with no ground game “beat” the one with a great ground game.
Yeah, I know that it’s bad form to speak of such things, but so be it.
It doesn’t add up.
Angry white men who hadn’t voted for a long time showed up at the polls. That’s why they didn’t show up in the polling data, they had no recent history. I’m as pissed as anyone else, but I don’t think that happened.
When trump said the election would be rigged most of us thought he was referring to Hillary’s efforts. I agree with Iz—————trump was referring to his OWN election!
“Angry white men who hadn’t voted for a long time showed up at the polls. That’s why they didn’t show up in the polling data, they had no recent history.”
=======================================
Is this based on data, or intuition?
The Publicans ALWAYS telegraph what they are going to do by first blaming the Dems for planning to do it; that way if they get caught they can always say it was pre-emptive or retaliatory.
Exit polls.
The exit polls show that 70% of voters rated the e-mail server as an issue that bothered them “a lot'” or “some”. We can blame Comey and probably should, but at some point the ethical question has to pivot to the Clintons. WTF, really. Because or Rove or Cheney did it?
What part don’t you understand about the media blowing this into a major scandal? When you see something mentioned EVERY DAY (600 days straight), you get the message that it must be serious.
That would pass quite nicely for the last press conference of Richard Milhouse Nixon.