Minimum wage discussed at the debate…

Minimum wage was a hot topic at last night’s Republican debate.

Here are some highlights…

Marco Rubio:

“If you raise the minimum wage, you are going to make people more expensive than machines,” said Florida Sen. Marco Rubio when his turn came to address the subject. Rubio, who has been gaining ground in some recent opinion polls, called the minimum wage “in the 20th Century” a “disaster.”

Donald Trump:

“Taxes too high, wages too high,” he later added. “We’re not going to be able to compete against the world. I hate to say it, but we have to leave it the way it is. People have to go out, they have to work really hard and they have to get into that upper stratum. But we cannot do this if we are going to compete with the rest of the world. We just can’t do it.”

Ben Carson:

Asked for his own take on the issue, Ben Carson said it would be misguided to raise the minimum wage, which remains $7.25 per hour. In particular, Carson said he would be concerned that such a raise might keep young African-Americans out of the job market. The neurosurgeon alluded to his own first job in a lab, which “gave me what I needed to ascend the ladder of opportunity.”

Despite going against their own interests, many working people, especially where I live, vote Republican…

Nobody should be surprised that many of America’s working poor are socially conservative. After all, the poor are more likely to be religious. If you are faced with the decision to vote for a party that you perceive to be marginally worse on safety net issues but much better on, say, abortion, what is the rational choice?

In that position, you’d vote where you could make a difference, of course.

It’s narcissistic and dismissive to tell workers that they couldn’t possibly know what’s best, that they should define themselves by the economic strata they inhabit — and that once they’ve done that, they would vote for the correct (read: left of center) candidates.

Consider also that the poor vote against their best interests when they vote for any national candidate. Voting at all is being complicit in your own oppression. Regressive taxation wasn’t dreamed up by a McDonald’s cook. Banking codes that prohibit credit unions from making small short term loans are the entire reason we have payday lenders. If workers had been writing health care policy, we’d be negotiating for cheaper prescriptions instead of explicitly enriching certain pharma companies.

Hoo boy… it blows my mind.

And then, there are the “facty” facts…



I am trying to understand why some people think they do not deserve being able to save and have a little nest egg, decent housing, access to healthcare, being educated no, and all the things that give everyone in civilized society a better quality of life.

And so many that I know will vote for one of these 1% members and still take home a minimum wage.

Many of these people I know only represent “interest bearing accounts” for the candidates.

3 thoughts on “Minimum wage discussed at the debate…

  1. Actually I think it’s people who believe that they in fact deserve a better quality of life, but they’ve become convinced by a complicit media that it’s unavailable to them because of all those . . . ‘others.’

  2. I call it the slave mentality. I know a lot of people , one or two are actually smart , the rest are twits, who think the virtuous attitude to take is to see ones own situation as a result of their individual inadequacy. It may or may not be, but a big part of their failure is not to recognize who else has rigged the game and how ,and not to be able to act collectively against it. Unions and socialism and regulation are all still dirty words in America, and success is is still deferred to no matter how undeserved or destructive the success was.
    Plus, blue collar conservatives are sort of feminized passive agrees sieves. The are the enabling mommy partners of the abusive daddies. It’s easier to stand by and cluck the tongues at both sides supposedly equal fault and let others bear the brunt of abuse, than to take a stand , llike joining a union or otherwise fight the real enemies

  3. We should be blaming the non-voters – not the people who vote. The public is largely in favor of most populist ideology such as breaking up the big banks, expanding SS, universal healthcare, etc. Look at the numbers in favor of gay marriage! The problem is either they don’t vote, in particular the young crowd, and/or elections are being stolen or gerrymandered. I’m glad to see Clinton is adamant about this issue and I hope if elected she can bring about some positive changes to the system. I know she’d be more engaged in party building than Obama was. And what a waste! He could have done so much.

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